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  1. #1
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    I'd like to see some FACTS about the WHY before I get my "panties in a wad" so to speak.

    For all anybody knows (unless you know something you haven't shared here in your little diatribe) Katie could have initiated the breakup, or asked for more than they can possibly afford. (or, now that I've scanned a few news articles looking (unsuccessfully) for details on this split, they know or suspect something about her health that we aren't aware of). Or, like smilingcat mentioned; they simply cannot afford to support her.

    I'm certainly NOT going to jump on the "female athlete discrimination" bandwagon with you until there's some darn good proof of that. They did hire her in the first place, and it's DARN COMMON in other sports for contracts to not be renewed (from both parties) and people to shuffle around (yes, even the star athletes).

    I'm more likely, as a customer, to never walk into a shop again after they cut ties with a brand I owned (thus making any warranty or other issues a whole lot bigger pain in my rear) because someone was unhappy about their race team practices (frankly I don't give a rat's behind about race teams) before even getting all the facts.

    You first need to SHOW us that there's an ACTUAL inequality. Heck, from your post I'm just ASSUMING that the person they kept is a man?!?!

    (not necessarily defending Planet Bike either; I just have no earthly idea what's actually going on. If you want me (or others) to decry this company as scum of the Earth you're going to have to do a better job of telling us/me why we/I should.)

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    Katie Comptons

    Perhaps some of your thoughts/beliefs are correct. However, if indeed it's a financial decision, then why wouldn't they stick with someone that has the best performances? Katis has 6 US National championships, 6 World Cup wins, and a silver and bronze at the World Championships. Those are stats that no one has...

    At any rate, I hope that we'll find out more info later and that she is able to find another sponser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridebikeme View Post
    Perhaps some of your thoughts/beliefs are correct. However, if indeed it's a financial decision, then why wouldn't they stick with someone that has the best performances? Katis has 6 US National championships, 6 World Cup wins, and a silver and bronze at the World Championships. Those are stats that no one has...

    At any rate, I hope that we'll find out more info later and that she is able to find another sponser.
    Easy; those stats command a whole lot more $$$ than some youngster without the record!!!!!

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    Wtf???

    I'm ashamed at how quick you were to jump on Ridebikeme for what is a legitimate concern. I don't personally know Katie Compton, but I know her reputation and palmeres. I'd be quick to back her over a sponsor any day. As a racer, I know how little support there is for women vs. men. It's completely skewed.

    Shefly brought up Laura Van Gilder. I do know her, and that's a perfect example. LVG is the best of the best. She's an amazing athlete and person. Racing bikes is her bread and butter, she supports herself by racing bikes, and has worked hard enough and proven herself enough that she has every right to do so. And she gives back, she's an incredible person. But yet, she's been without a sponsor. Yes, she wins races and therefor prize money...but she's without the sponsorship which equals equipment deals that are so vital in this business. Not to mention that Laura wins races alone, without a team to support her! Do you have any idea how difficult that is? Racing...especially crit racing on an elite level is normally a team sport. For her to do it without a team is absolutely a testimony to her ability. Of course out here, the Olympians and ex-pros will be the first to tell you! She regularly schools the boys.

    Local Cat1 guys that don't race out of the state of PA get better equipment deals, and better prize money than these women. But yet a sponsor dropped a 6x world champion? And you're ok with that? Katie has not been accused of doping or dishonoring her sponsors (trust me, I'd be the first to know, one of my closest friends is a premier CX writer)...I'm completely taken aback that that would even be assumed on a women's cycling forum.

    The negativity in this post amazes me. Women's racing is in a growing place. It's faster and better than it's ever been! At the Liberty Classic (the Philly Pro Women's race) we passed the men! That's never happened...Ina T. called them P***ies as she passed! That was awesome!

    I'm just so disappointed that you would be so quick to disqualify a woman that had been dropped by her sponsor. It doesn't happen to men, it shouldn't happen to women. But it does, and way too frequently. And we should be pissed about it.
    Last edited by AllezGirl; 01-24-2010 at 10:30 PM.
    "The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without shocking the entire community." -- Ann Strong, Minneapolis Tribune, 1895

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllezGirl View Post
    Ina T. called them P***ies as she passed! That was awesome!
    Passing them was awesome. Calling them by that name was anything but.

    Okay, I don't know anything about the particular issues in this thread, but insulting men by calling them effeminate does NOT do anything for the cause of women's equality. As long as women ourselves - let alone men - consider being female/feminine/effeminate as an insult, we will never be thought of as equals.
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    Katie Comptons

    I apologize for upsetting people here, that was NOT my intent! The purpose of this was to open our eyes to the reality of professional womens cycling and the inequality of sponsers/pay. Did you know that most of the pros have to work another job while still riding? And that even the lower throngs of the mens racing have a higher income?

    I'm NOT here to make this a male vs female rant; it's simply a fact that we should all pay attention to. Although we are getting closer, the men make more money in all facets of the work world. Shouldn't we be concerned about this? Wouldn't you want your daughter making equal pay of another male for doing the same job?

    Perhaps there is an underlying reason why Katie lost her sponser (again), but the fact remains her and Laura have so much talent and struggle to find sponsers. There are no doping allegations with either, and "yet" we'll be ok with men that haver paid their dues and yet are still able to find a team to sponser them?

    To make a long story short, I feel very fortunate to have received an athletic scholarship to college. I also know that there were many women that worked hard and struggled to make things like that happen. Personally, I feel an obligation to try and make things better for the women that are coming up in the sport or are involved right now. And it's very likely that the effort I make will go unnoticed, but I hope eventually pay scales and sponsership will be more equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllezGirl View Post
    Women's racing is in a growing place. It's faster and better than it's ever been! At the Liberty Classic (the Philly Pro Women's race) we passed the men! That's never happened...Ina T. called them P***ies as she passed! That was awesome!
    Beryl Burton passed all the men, including the one who had just set the world record in the 12 hour.

    Read about her here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_Burton

    Like today's female racers, Beryl also worked full time while racing. She didn't even get paid leave from her job to attend races in which she set world record times. She also had no pro sponsorship, so attending international races, and buying gear, was a huge financial burden on her family. We've come a long way baby--oh wait, no, we haven't.

    BTW, my Planetbike mesh gloves were very poorly made, and came apart at the seams in only a few rides. I wouldn't have mentioned that if they hadn't dropped Katie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllezGirl View Post
    Ina T. called them P***ies as she passed! That was awesome!
    No, that seems rude and immature to me, not awesome. Grow up, Mrs. Ina T.

    Quote Originally Posted by AllezGirl View Post
    It doesn't happen to men, it shouldn't happen to women.
    Yes, it does happen that men are dropped by their sponsors. Champions are dropped every day.
    Sponsors drop athletes all the time for a number of financial/PR/risk management reasons - nothing to do with gender.
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    Ina called her male teammates on Columbia p*****s. It was tongue and cheek. Grow a sense of humor.
    "The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without shocking the entire community." -- Ann Strong, Minneapolis Tribune, 1895

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllezGirl View Post
    Ina called her male teammates on Columbia p*****s. It was tongue and cheek. Grow a sense of humor.
    Still unprofessional behavior calling each other names during a race which is a public event. Lawyers do not call each other names in court, nor do physicians in front of their patients. In private we can joke about anything we like and laugh about it - but in public we represent our profession.
    If we compete in a sport - during the competition we represent our team, our sport, and athletes in general. Therefore, professional behavior is in order
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