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    Well I am now officially a beekeeper.

    A neighbor sold her farm that was located in another town, and she had had a bee hive there for several years which she now had no place for, so she said i could have it. It especially pleased her that she would even be able to come visit her old bees down the street in their new home at my place.
    After much preparation, today a kind young beekeeper helped me and we went through the whole hive getting it ready for winter... and then at dusk he and I trucked it over to my house this evening and now it's all set up in back of my garden.
    Poor bees will wake up tomorrow in a whole new world.
    It was so cool, we found the queen and got to look at Her Majesty!
    I'm very lucky- these bees are very healthy, are acclimatized to our zone already, and were extremely gentle when we took apart the whole hive.
    I'm very happy and excited!
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    WOOO HOOO for you!!!!! COngratulations to you...You will be so amazed next year, they have been so fascinating for me. They truly are amazing little creatures.
    I wanted to peak into the hives today, but it's so windy out that I didn't dare to. I wanted to take the inner cover off and put in some crisco/sugar mixture to help with some mite control for over the winter..I don't want to use chemicals or antibiotics like a lot of people do. I want to keep it more natural.
    Oh, and in November, somewheres around the 13th, there is a meeting in Syracuse for the Eastern honey bee keepers association. I heard about it last night by another bee keeper. He said he goes as there are lots of speakers and things. It's like 45.00 a day maybe and it's a 2 day event. I didn't get all the facts yet, I was half asleep when he called to tell me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by short cut sally View Post
    WOOO HOOO for you!!!!! COngratulations to you...You will be so amazed next year, they have been so fascinating for me. They truly are amazing little creatures.
    I wanted to peak into the hives today, but it's so windy out that I didn't dare to. I wanted to take the inner cover off and put in some crisco/sugar mixture to help with some mite control for over the winter..I don't want to use chemicals or antibiotics like a lot of people do. I want to keep it more natural.
    Oh, and in November, somewheres around the 13th, there is a meeting in Syracuse for the Eastern honey bee keepers association. I heard about it last night by another bee keeper. He said he goes as there are lots of speakers and things. It's like 45.00 a day maybe and it's a 2 day event. I didn't get all the facts yet, I was half asleep when he called to tell me...
    Thanks Shelly...ooops I mean Sally!
    Here are more details and pictures of my new/old hive, now in place in back of my garden!: HERE.

    Yes, it is nasty bee weather here too today. I wanted to give them some syrup but it's windy and cloudy and chilly. Will maybe try tomorrow if no wind.
    'The girls' are not venturing out much today anyway...too cold and windy and of course they are completely disoriented at this point too. Still, there are a few dozen brave souls going in and out, yet a dozen or so have died this morning on the ground around the hive- too chilled and couldn't find their way back in again I suppose. Good thing there are several thousand to spare.

    I am still amazed at how gentle they all were when we were pulling the whole hive apart frame by frame yesterday. Very impressive and endearing.

    Have you looked into the Honey-B-Healthy supplement to add to sugar syrup feedings? It contains natural stuff like lemongrass oil and spearmint oil, no nasty chemicals, and I've heard bees seem to thrive on it and the varroa mites detest it and their numbers tend to decline when bees are fed with it.
    I've read that the grease/crisco cakes are good for tracheal mites but do little to combat varroa mites.
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    Photos I took of my girls today while I was doing hive chores ...


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    Those are amazing pics of your girls! Fascinating.
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    Hey Bleeker, your girls look happy and healthy!!!
    I've been feeding mine the sugar water solution. I have to find out about the Honey B supplement to add, it's getting too late for it this year, next year though. I did know that the verroa don't like menthal smells, so this fall I had put in the hives, an all natural product that was like a bag balm consistency and had a menthol smell and was used as a verroa mite deterrant and "bee calmer". But that was a little on the pricey side, like 18.00 a bag and one bag per hive..I didn't follow recommendations on that... (I divided it up )
    Other than that, it's hope for the best. I'm hoping for one more good day so I can check them out again, to see if they've made any honey with all that sugar they've been consuming or hopefully not used what little they did make to store. I'm just afraid that they aren't gonna make it. I don't want to start all over next year. All I wanted to do was get one more swarm to add to the bunch not get 3 swarms to get going again...Time will tell...
    Enjoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl View Post
    yet a dozen or so have died this morning on the ground around the hive-
    Chances are - those dead bees were already dead when you set up the hive. Bees often do 'house cleanning' - particularly when it starts to get cold. They move all the dead bees out of the hive before they get it all set up for winter. It's extremely common to find small piles of dead bees outside the hive entrance as the temps start to drop.

    Those are some beautiful photos!


    My H and I attended two classes at our local bee suppliers location this past weekend. We took a soap making class in the AM and then a candle making one in the PM. Man...that beeswax is some handy stuff, isn't it? I'm really looking forward to 'harvesting' some next year. My H can have the honey...I want the wax! This year, we took only one frame of honey and we are not feeding our bees this winter. They did very, very well this year and really built up a beautiful supply. If all goes well, we'll buy/build a second hive in the spring.
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    Yes, if this hive comes out of winter strongly, I want to split it into two hives as well. These bees I got are very healthy and gentle, and well acclimatized to this area already.
    I have plenty of new boxes ready to add in the Spring. I'll be putting together about 50 new frames this winter so I'll have enough for new deeps and supers for two hives. They are wintering now in their two old deeps in order to minimize disruption for them.
    I too worry that they will die over the winter! It's irrational but I can't help it. I'm like a worried mother hen.
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    OK Bleeker, how are your girls doing? I know that it's been sunny the past few weeks so I'm posting this to get an update on your hive. I'm interested in GLC's hubby's bees too..
    I went into winter with 3 hives in my pen (1 of my dad's and 2 mine) and the Pkgd. bees didn't make it. They never went beyond one brood box, even though they had capped honey, they were sorta soppy in a clump when I scoped them out a couple of days ago. The 2 swarms made it with no problem. They had some capped honey left, so I took the empty frames out and replaced them with the capped honey from the pkgd hive. I left he empty hive open so there has been great robbing going on in it, I'm assuming or hoping it's by my bees.
    I shimmed open the cover on all my hives in December with a piece of luann board as to allow more air to circulate (per a suggestion from a keeper in the area, and I never reduced my entrance). I'm not sure that's what kept them going or not, but there was no mold or anything, but still not sure about the pkgd. bees, they were simply not a good batch.
    I'm going to order some "nuc" bees here as soon as I can find a ladies number that belongs in our local bee club.
    Just was wondering how everyone's girls made out...I know spring's not here yet, and maybe jumping the gun on getting my hope's up for the bee's, but just couldn't help myself to see how they made out.
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    Hi Sally/Shelly....

    Sadly, my one hive did not make it through the winter.

    Around December 3, I found the queen dead outside the hive in front of it.
    I'll never know what happened, since there has been no sign of disease of any kind, not excessive mites. No indication of CCD either.
    Apparently after the queen's death, the hive slowly dwindled and was not able to raise brood to replace the older workers.
    Last week I finally disassembled the hive and still could not find any clues as to what went wrong (aside from, obviously, the queen's death). I am forging ahead after my winter mourning period.

    Many pounds of wonderful honey and pollen remained stored up and untouched in the frames of the two deeps, so i took that out and wrapped and stored it in my basement so it wouldn't get robbed.
    I had the good sense to order two new packages back in January, so I'll have two new colonies to start up the first week of May. I also have an excellent local source of non-treated mite-resistant queens near me, so I'll likely split or do some requeening during the summer. My goal is to have 3 or 4 vigorous hives going into next fall. The odds are not so favorable for winter when you only have one hive.

    I have also set up a swarm lure box for the year to do a little feral bee 'fishing'- you never know! Took an old wreck of a deep and baited it with old brood comb frames and lemongrass oil. There are honeybees from *somewhere* checking it out already for the past couple of days, going in and out and and cleaning out any remaining grains of sugar and old honey residue. With some luck I will catch a swarm eventually.

    Meanwhile, I've been putting up nesting boxes for the little native bee pollinators too, our local wild blue orchard mason bees:
    http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showp...&postcount=381
    So it looks like there will indeed be bees flying here this summer, one way or another.
    Lisa
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