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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankin View Post
    I want that Kurta.
    But I won't spend the $ for it.
    Off topic, it isn't even wool, but "not spending the money for it" came to mind when I got an ad for this in my email box. Are they KIDDING????
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    I guess you must really have to like skiing?
    You could buy a nice bike for that. Even I am not that jaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    Off topic, it isn't even wool, but "not spending the money for it" came to mind when I got an ad for this in my email box. Are they KIDDING????
    WOW. Maybe that price is in pesos?
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    So I'm sitting here in one of these and one of these and a pair of these and a bunch of other layers that I wish were wool, and wondering if I ordered a pair of these, whether they'd get here before the propane truck...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    Off topic, it isn't even wool, but "not spending the money for it" came to mind when I got an ad for this in my email box. Are they KIDDING????
    and it's polyurethane! what's not to love.
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    My wool purchases from SAC have been trickling in. Most of them are not for me, but now I wish that I had ordered some of them in my size. The SW microweight zip-T is very nice. The fabric has a light ribbing and feels so soft - softer than my wool base layers, anyway. Maybe I'll wear it around for a bit before I send it off to Dh.
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    A few ratings

    Patagonia Merino 1 crew - like silk, the softest, thinnest, yummiest wool base layer I've ever had (and that's over Smartwool, Ibex, Io/Bio, Icebreaker, REI, Helly Hansen, and probably others I have forgotten). Has a nice scoop neck which lends a more feminine touch.

    Patagonia Merino 4 bottoms - Wow. Layered under a pair of medium weight fleece pants, I was toasty warm through 4 cold days of steelhead fishing in 46 degree water over my hips. Sized and fitted more like loose tights, so if you want to layer under tight clothing buy a size smaller. Washed up like a dream. Wish I had these for my Alaska fishing trips.

    Patagonia Ultra Heavyweight mountaineering socks under neoprene wader feet and a lt pair of neoprene wader socks and who knew my weakest point was standing in 46 degree water for 8 hours a day for 4 days! Cold? What cold! So far only Patagonia and Cabelas make mountaineering weight socks sized for small feet. I like the denser weave of the Patagucci's but you pay for it.

    And the piece de resistance when the winds came up.
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    SK - I LOVE that hat! Can you tell me...is it stretchy at all? I have a huge head and would need a larger size unless it's stretchy and that's hard to tell from the picture.

    (please, please, please let it not be stretchy so that I'm not compelled to buy it.....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GLC1968 View Post
    (please, please, please let it not be stretchy so that I'm not compelled to buy it.....)
    Um, you may be in luck.

    I'm a pinhead. Happened to have a tape measure handy and my noggin is 21.5". The hat would accomodate a 22" head at most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SadieKate View Post
    I'm a pinhead. Happened to have a tape measure handy and my noggin is 21.5". The hat would accomodate a 22" head at most.
    Mine is 21". Most hats are gigantic on me.
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    I know the feeling . . .
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    Help me...I'm "welting"

    This thread is soooo long and technology has probably changed a bit since it started so I am going to ask a question that has probably been asked before...

    Does anyone avoid wool because they break out in a rash of welts?
    This has been a life-long, head-to-toe problem for me.
    I have avoided wool for much of my 49 years because of this.

    I purchased two pair of Smart Wool socks for hiking last summer because I was tired of getting blisters. They did not cause welting on my feet or ankles. I just purchased two more pair and plan to cycle out my non-wool fashion socks as well. (Slowly because SW is $$$$$)

    Are these technical wool items different than the fashion items I have never had the pleasure to enjoy? Will my legs, torso, arms, neck and head be able to tolerate this new generation wool?

    I am tempted to try a base-layer-T. Has anyone who welts tried the newer sports-tech stuff and survived?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MommyBird View Post
    This thread is soooo long and technology has probably changed a bit since it started so I am going to ask a question that has probably been asked before...

    Does anyone avoid wool because they break out in a rash of welts?
    This has been a life-long, head-to-toe problem for me.
    I have avoided wool for much of my 49 years because of this.


    I am tempted to try a base-layer-T. Has anyone who welts tried the newer sports-tech stuff and survived?
    yeah, my itchy twitchy husband. He LOVES his merino underlayer teeshirt.

    it IS different but i don't know how or why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MommyBird View Post
    Are these technical wool items different than the fashion items I have never had the pleasure to enjoy?.....Has anyone who welts tried the newer sports-tech stuff and survived?
    Just to clarify, the new softer merino wool items we tend to rave about are not 'sports-tech' or 'technical wool'. They are just WOOL. But they are 100% merino breed sheep wool- which is much finer and softer to begin with and tends to not make people break out and itch like the wool sweaters we were used to when growing up.
    There's nothing 'technical' or 'sports' about it aside from the fact that the merino breed of sheep produce the finest softest fiber sheep wool there is.

    Maybe buy a sleeveless Smartwool base layer vest and give it a try? Smartwool, Ibex, and I believe Icebreaker use only fine merino wool in their 100% wool items. Others offer it too, like Patagonia.
    You can also look for labels saying "100% merino wool" in thrift store sweaters.
    Always read the labels....and beware of things labeled like "wool blend" or "wool tech", "wool fleece", etc....usually indicating only part wool content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MommyBird View Post
    Are these technical wool items different than the fashion items I have never had the pleasure to enjoy? . . . I am tempted to try a base-layer-T. Has anyone who welts tried the newer sports-tech stuff and survived?
    Sort of.

    Washable wool is created by using acid to remove the scales so the fiber doesn't felt when washed. Additionally, the fiber may be coated with polymers or teflon. Perhaps, the lack of scales, the coating, and a potential loss of lanolin from the acid bath may mean people may be less likely to react to the wool.

    Anyone who knits and/or felts with wool can tell you that superwash yarns behave very differently than wool that still has its natural scales and lanolin (and even "normal" yarn has varying degrees of lanolin depending on how much the wool has been processed prior to spinning). It not only doesn't felt, it can remain stretchier. Fair Isle knitting can be tricky with washable wool because the yarn scales aren't there to grab onto the neighboring strand, so the garment stretches more and doesn't have the same memory (i.e., shrink back to original size).

    Editing to add that all wool is technically "washable" but what the industry calls washable wool or superwash can be much more roughly handled (a washing machine) and maybe even thrown in the dryer. When washing non-superwash, don't use agitation, warm water or heat to dry. Otherwise, you'll get shrinkage and felting.

    Here's some more info:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wool
    Superwash wool (or washable wool) technology first appeared in the early 1970s to produce wool that has been specially treated so that it is machine washable and may be tumble-dried. This wool is produced using an acid bath that removes the "scales" from the fiber, or by coating the fiber with a polymer that prevents the scales from attaching to each other and causing shrinkage.
    http://knitting.about.com/od/knittin...rwash_wool.htm

    http://www.thevillaandshoestoo.com/P...le%20wool.html
    Last edited by SadieKate; 11-05-2009 at 10:13 AM.
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