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    Don't know what your sleep issues are... but I"ll be interested in hearing your experience. I am not menopausal (hopefully nowhere near, I'm 29), so I don't know if that website is geared towards me. However, I've been having terrible insomnia for the past few months that's connected to anxiety. It's been really disruptive to my life and to my studies. My doctor gave me a three week precription for Ambien. She gave me the weakest strength. It works ok, sometimes I still wake up at 3 and can't get back to sleep. The bigger problem is that a three week prescription isn't really going to do much for me, I'm either going to need to use it continuously for a while or find something that replaces it/does a better job addressing the root problem.

    I've considered trying kava. Next time I see the doctor (next week) I'm going to see if she objects strongly to this.

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    <caution drift>

    Liza, I hope you get it sorted. I hate it when a doctor treats a symptom like that...

    Will your insurance cover therapy, or psychiatry to get you on an appropriate anxiolytic? Is there underlying depression, as there often is with early morning awakening? Has your PCP tried you on BuSpar (pretty inexpensive in its generic forms, non-sedating, non-habit forming, and the side effects are generally minor)?

    </drift>
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    I had sleep problems--waking up at 3:30 every single night and not being able to go back to sleep until 5:00 and then sleeping until 8:00 (I don't have a job to get up for).

    During the time my son was in Iraq, I took Ambien. I had pretty fitful dreams on that stuff. He came home and I stopped taking it and a couple of months later the symptoms came back (I'm definitely perimenopausal). I tried Tylenol PM (the same ingredient as Benadryl) and I have never looked back. I cleared with my doc that it is safe to take every night. I've been taking it for 3 years, maybe? Every once in a while I go without, and I sleep through for a couple of nights, but then I'm right back where I started. So I keep taking it.

    I'd try that if I were you, but not at the same time as the Ambien.

    Karen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckervill View Post
    During the time my son was in Iraq, I took Ambien. I had pretty fitful dreams on that stuff. He came home and I stopped taking it and a couple of months later the symptoms came back (I'm definitely perimenopausal). I tried Tylenol PM (the same ingredient as Benadryl) and I have never looked back. I cleared with my doc that it is safe to take every night. I've been taking it for 3 years, maybe? Every once in a while I go without, and I sleep through for a couple of nights, but then I'm right back where I started. So I keep taking it.

    I'd try that if I were you, but not at the same time as the Ambien.

    Karen
    More than any other sleep aid, I see people that get really jacked up with Ambien...be very careful. It seems to work well for some, but others do very odd things during the night...some combine it with alcohol (NOT good) but some just react to it. Sleepwalking, sleepeating, and sometimes violent, irrational behavior can result from taking it. Especially if you are on other meds or enjoy a glass of red wine before bed. ONE glass of wine will react with Ambien. I am not a doctor, but when you see person after person in JAIL after taking Ambien and then wandering naked amongst the briars (or other strange behavior), you start to draw some conclusions.

    Tylenol PM rocks. I sleep odd hours due to my shift work, and one Tylenol PM knocks me out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenyonchris View Post
    when you see person after person in JAIL after taking Ambien and then wandering naked amongst the briars (or other strange behavior), you start to draw some conclusions.
    Not that you need anything more to do... but anyone can file an adverse event report with the FDA. Until enough AERs get filed, this will be the kind of thing that "every street cop knows" but most PCPs don't.
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    Be careful with the Tylenol, ladies. I keep hearing more and more about how combining it with *any* alcohol, or in anything over the minimum dosage is not good...

    CA
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    Yeah, I missed that part, you're absolutely right. "Tylenol PM" is just acetaminophen plus diphenhydramine a.k.a. Benadryl. Plain generic Benadryl is the way to go if you don't also have pain.

    CA, hope whatever's going on works itself out to the better, and ASAP.
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    "During the time my son was in Iraq, I took Ambien."


    I bought my first bike when my son was in Iraq. It was a good distraction and the exercise helped me sleep.

    I hope he made it home safe and sound.
    Last edited by Bike Chick; 10-16-2009 at 03:33 AM.

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    [/QUOTE]During the time my son was in Iraq, I took Ambien.
    [/QUOTE]

    I bought my first bike when my son was in Iraq. It was a good distraction and the exercise helped me sleep.

    I hope he made it home safe and sound

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Chick View Post
    "During the time my son was in Iraq, I took Ambien."


    I bought my first bike when my son was in Iraq. It was a good distraction and the exercise helped me sleep.

    I hope he made it home safe and sound.
    Yes, he did, thanks. Yours?

    I also went to college for the first time that year, just to keep my mind off things. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckervill View Post
    Yes, he did, thanks. Yours?

    I also went to college for the first time that year, just to keep my mind off things. lol.

    Karen
    I use Tylenol PM once in awhile, but I wake up at 3am too! I guess I'll try it regularly. Especially since my son is going on his THIRD deployment Jan. 2nd. Yeesh. Glad our sons are okay for now.
    Claudia

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    Ambien is addictive!

    Please gals, be careful with Ambien. I used to be a pharma rep, and I sold Lunesta. I spoke to two doctors who became addicted to ambien and had to be admitted to a rehab. This is a dangerous drug.

    Lisa

 

 

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