Barb: you could also buy the non-cycling gloves you liked that kept your hands warm and then wear your padded cycling gloves under them. I actually have 4 pairs of winter cycling gloves, long-fingered Specialized BG gloves in a light-weight material, heavier Canari LF gloves, heavy wind/water proof Avenir gloves and the PI Lobster Claws. I only wore the Lobsters a couple of times last year coz they do keep my fingers warm. I also have a pair of polypro liners that I can wear under any of the gloves as I reach the "end" of their temp range. (I pick my clothing based on 10 degree increments so at the upper end it may be a tad warm, at the lower end it may be a tad cold but for the most part it's Just Right for that temp range.)