Quote Originally Posted by bikerHen
serious trainer training over winter, but I guess those miles don't count.

I think someone should figure out a handicapping system for those who can ride year round vs. those of us who can't!
Trainer miles count, if you know them. You can mount your speed pickup on the chainstay to ride trainers. Or you can ride rollers and leave the pickup on the front fork.

Your journal can be set up to compare outdoor stats only or not. I have mine checked as outdoor only. I'm just that way. It's hard for me to ride indoors enough to count them. But I prefer people to think I am an outdoors only snob.