Tulip I totally agree with what you are saying. I actually stopped going to this ride as much because of how insane it was becoming. It's scary because the only reason I wasn't there the night of the accident was because my schedule changed this semester so I wasn't able to do Wednesday nights anymore. Feeling a little heavenly intervention in hindsight. It sounds like your club is having the same problem ours is with the more experienced riders getting out of control on some of the rides. The ride in this story has been notorious for running stops signs, stop lights, and just being plain rude on the roadways. As someone who has ridden with this group it is real easy to get sucked into thinking it's OK to act like that but it's not. That's where the 'group mentality' issue comes into play.

I love to ride fast too but in a dense urban area? at 6pm? during the week? during the afternoon rush? I don't want to give it up but I have to ask myself how smart this really is? I'm completely torn at this point