Yeah, I did the men's bike/short stem deal for a while, but it was still way too long a reach. I actually have a custom road/all-rounder bike now, but crave more experiences on different bikes. Sheesh, if I were a guy who fit on a 56cm square bike I'd be buying and selling interesting used bikes constantly!

Plus I'm considering doing 'cross...thus my curiosity about European builders arose.

marinkap, good luck with your savings fund! I wanted an IF, but didn't have the patience. But my local builder worked with me on building a variation of their 'club racer'.