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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginny View Post
    Indi, I have been doing the slobber/wipe thing for years with swim goggles and ski goggles. I need to get some more 'side lighting' for my bike. The nearest collision I had last year in the dark was someone trying to turn left into me... any opinions everyone? I saw those spoke wrap lights or reflective tape or whatever that were posted recently, but it seems like they may throw off the balance of the wheel - what else have people used?
    I have reflective sidewalls for a start - the Vittoria Randonneur tires are great for commuting, and I haven't had a flat after a year of commuting and weekend rides. This is even after being lazy and not trading out the back tire for a trainer tire.

    I have an amber Down Low Glow from Rock the Bike.

    I was considering getting valve stem lights -- my LBS has ones that are very bright and robust, with 3 batteries, and they are like large christmas bulbs (a lot of visible light, especially on the sides), and don't turn off like the novelty lights. They come in two packs of white or red, so I could mix and match and get white on the front wheel, red on the back. I don't remember the manufacturer and couldn't find them when searching.

    I just found this bike safety light online, which is produced by a bicycle safety group and appears to have some research behind it. I am not sure about the light being blue though; I find blue-tinted headlights to be very annoying, and running blue lights might be technically illegal since it is reserved for the police. I like that it is small and will fit in a seatbag; I did just buy one to play with and might stick it with the around-town beater bike as an additional light if I happen to be out on it past dark.

    The ankelite was produced to replace the missing reflectors from clipless pedals with amber lights on an ankle strap. I want one to put on my left wrist for signaling though; supposedly they are visible during the day as well. They are solar-rechargeable, which is pretty neat. I have two rechargeable batteries on my commuter to worry about already, and will be adding a third with the downlow glow.

  2. #2
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    Jul 2009
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    I ADORE riding in the dark/wee morning hours! Much less traffic in my area, which is key for me. My setup:

    - 2 headlights - these are cheapy Scwinn's but work great as long as I'm diligent about keeping fresh batteries in them
    - 2 tailights (one flashing, one static)
    - 1 firefly on my camelback
    - 1 firefly attached to each wheel (zip tied to the spokes)
    - reflective tape on my helmet and bike
    - reflective ankle straps

    Riding in the dark makes me feel SAFE. With my rearview mirror I can see cars/headlights way earlier than I can in daylight. Barely any traffic means I can be seen by cars WAY in advance as well. It's also rare that I would have cars passing me in both directions at once. This means cars coming up behind me usually pass all the way into the other lane which is really nice. Some people think I'm crazy when I say I'd rather ride in the dark, but I love it! If I'm not on the road by 4 or 5am, I don't go.

    ETA: The silence of darkness is also great. I love being able to hear a car coming before I even see headlights.
    Last edited by GulfCoastAmy; 09-10-2009 at 07:34 AM.
    Amy

    Kickin' it old school on my Huffy, but hey, I RIDE!

  3. #3
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    Dec 2005
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    WA State
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    For the past couple of years I've gathered with some of the local bike club folks and we've done a night gear test - light and reflectors, what is effective and what isn't.

    Some of the things we've found

    Do not rely on brightly colored clothing - even your screaming neon yellow jacket becomes invisible at dusk.

    You need *both* lights and reflectors. Lights are most effective when it is the darkest. Reflectors work well when there are cars around, whose headlights might be drowning out your lights.

    Moving lights and reflectors are very eye catching. Put them on things that turn - like your wheels and things that move up and down - your legs.

    Reflective sidewalls are very cool - until they get dirty and then they don't reflect much any more, so keep them clean.

    Most cyclists are most invisible from the side - we pretty much all had front and rear lights, but cars on side streets may not see you if you don't have a light that shines to the side. (like a down low glow or valve stem lights).

    The Dinotte tail light is like a miniature sun......

    My personal set up is:
    a Minewt on my handlebars
    a red flasher/reflector combo on my messenger bag (I should get another for my bike - this one is now on my bag because the clip broke)
    an LED flashlight rubber banded to my helmet (this one is for pointing at drivers and extra light when its really dark. I chose an LED flashlight instead of a bike specific light because it is very small and very light)
    a white Knog on my front messenger bag strap (I lost the red one that used to be on the back )
    valve stem lights - these are *very* noticeable, probably the best light I have for sheer what's that factor - mine are green.
    a band of reflective ribbon on my messenger bag strap. (the other folks at the night light test said this was very effective)
    a band of reflective ribbon on the bottom of my messenger bag
    reflective leg bands
    reflective heels on my shoes (I have winter Sidis) - and my new tights have reflective piping on the back of the legs.
    I used to have some 3m reflective stickers on my fender/flap too - but the fender broke and I had to replace it. I don't think I've put more on since then.
    Last edited by Eden; 09-10-2009 at 08:05 AM.
    "Sharing the road means getting along, not getting ahead" - 1994 Washington State Driver's Guide

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  4. #4
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    oh and btw - keep your lights consistent with other traffic. Don't put a red flasher pointing to the front of your bike.... you appear to be going the opposite direction that you really are. This can be really freaky if you are on a MUT and suddenly you realize someone who you thought was going away from you is actually coming towards you...

    White light towards the front, red/amber lights to the rear
    have fun with your side lights, they can be most any color except.....
    Some states (like this one) specify *no* flashing blue lights - these are reserved for the exclusive use of police
    "Sharing the road means getting along, not getting ahead" - 1994 Washington State Driver's Guide

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  5. #5
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    Oct 2006
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    Quote Originally Posted by GulfCoastAmy View Post
    I ADORE riding in the dark/wee morning hours! Much less traffic in my area, which is key for me. ETA: The silence of darkness is also great. I love being able to hear a car coming before I even see headlights.
    ME TOO!!! I LOVE early morning hours. I use to commute to work at 4am every day until the office became an 8-5 shop (I can't believe, in this day and age, they did this, so I am PI****, and angry), but I still get up at an early hour (now 4:30am, was 3:30am) and go out for a spin. I usually only can do 12.5 miles before I have to hit the showers and get ready for the bus. I have always had, what I thought a good set up for a dark (early hours) commute... Minute II headlight with several white blinkies in the front and a bike planet flashing light hanging off my camelback, and another red strobe type light (can't remember the name) off my pannier, in the back. My DH said I was lit up like a christmas tree, AND I FELT SAFE!!!

    I see so many joggers now that I just ride for the fun of it in the early morning and I yell at them "GET A LIGHT, YOU CAN't BE SEEN!!!). I don't know what they think, but as a jogger was hit and killed on Friday morn, maybe my warning will get someone to listen.

    I miss my morning commute more than anyone can imagine (except for someone else who might have one), but I absolutely love my morning ride. I know my weather will be changing soon and it will be too cold/wet to continue, but I will never give it up. It is scary at times when I hear sirens and wonder, uh oh, where is that coming from, but the air is so clean and fresh...the sounds are of night hawks and occassional cat fights...it is so wonderful for an urbanite who has to face the humdrum of daylight hours....anyway, I am rambling.

    LIGHT UP and witness the early morning....it is wonderful!!!!

  6. #6
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    Jun 2006
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    So, I'm in the dark riding club! I went for my first one last night after I got home from work. I was disappointed that rain was still falling when I woke up in the morning and I decided not to ride. The rest of the day got continually better, and it was lovely when I got home. Bf had the night off, and when I decided to go for a ride at 6:30, he asked if instead I would rather walk downtown and get some gelato. Oh, that was tempting, but the ride still sounded better! Off I went.

    I planned my route so it wouldn't be truly dark until I was back on the road with street lights. While it was dusk, I had my lights on strobe just for safety. My front light was a cateye I stole off bf's commuter, and I have to say, it really sucked. Vision-wise, the first thing to go, way before it was even a little dark, was the ability to see rocks in the road. I only hit one, but I pretty much know this road better than the back of my hand. I know every pothole and crack, but rocks move, so not seeing them coming is an issue. So, after I hit my rock, I decided I'd better slow it down a little to possibly see them coming. The light really isn't good enough for that even at slow speed, as I hit a stick a little later, but I made it through without flatting!

    Then I settled into it, and really liked it. It felt very "in the moment". Then, as I'm in this really focused place, I'm surprised by a sound quickly approaching from the back. It was another rider, no lights, no helmet, break-neck speed, we all know him, it's our friend "Fred"! . He flew past me. Must be nice to not care.

    Cars gave me lots of room. I knew I could be seen when the young guy yelled something at me out the window. I'm sure it was something like Wow, you're amazin'!

    Anyway, I'm hooked. I know I can safely commute with some better lights. It was fun.

  7. #7
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    Jul 2007
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    Congratulations! You're amazing!
    I can do five more miles.

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by indigoiis View Post
    Congratulations! You're amazing!
    I know you are but what am I!

  9. #9
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    Jan 2006
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    too late!

    great thread! just wish i had seen it 5 days ago.....Ive been commuting since last april with no issues. i leave my house at 6am for a 5 mile ride. None of my route is really busy, in fact, what isn't through neighborhoods is on roads with good bike lanes. As sunrise has been getting later, my ride has been getting darker. While ive thought about changing my work schedule so i could commute in the light, the early morning ride is kind of nice and there is much less traffic. So last friday, i was pedaling along through the neighborhoods and it happened to be trash day. While i had a headlight it was more focused on the ground for potholes. i didnt even see the trash can (in salt lake they are 3.5 feet high and 2.5 feet around). There is also street parking along this road and the homeowner had placed the trash can way out in the street -beyond where the cars park-so the trash truck could get to it. To make a long story short, i ended up in the er with a "broken shoulder" and "broken elbow". I have surgery on Wednesday for the elbow and the doc says i wont be riding for three months. Needless to say i'm bummed. Not only because i wont be riding for a while but this incident has given fuel to my husband who doesn't think road riding is safe, much less commuting in the dark......

    my lesson is while it is IMPERITIVE to make sure you are visible when you are on the road, you also need to be able to SEE where you are going-even when you do the same route and know it well...

  10. #10
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    May 2007
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelsel View Post
    I have an amber Down Low Glow from Rock the Bike.
    Me too! And mine is amber too! I like night rides just to show that thing off.

    I've focused on lights that don't require AA and AAA batteries, because those were always dying on me. I have reelights (magnet powered) on my wheels, front & back, and a generator-powered hub light, and the downlow glo which has a rechargeable battery.

  11. #11
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    Feb 2005
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    I recently got a light for my road bike and have done 2 dark, early AM rides of ten miles. While I have 2 lights on my hybrid, this one light seems so much better that it is fine. I wear a reflective vest, have a super bright red flasher on the back and 2 flashing ankle bands. I loved the peacefulness of riding at this time! My only issue is that wearing the clear lenses in my sunglasses seem to distort my vision a little. It was better this week, though. I could ride without glasses, but it's probably not safe.
    Next week I hope to do one of my regular 15 mile loops before work.

  12. #12
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    Apr 2005
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    Spokane, WA
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    As another lover of riding in the dark, all I can say is you can never have too many lights and reflective stuff. My evening commutes are getting darker. I'll be hanging up my speedy Ruby, with it's skinny tires, in favor of my trusty LHT very soon. The Surly, nicknamed The Tank, has wider tires, full fenders, all my light mounts and is my "ride through anything" bike. I know summer is really over when the Tank becomes my daily ride. Next thing you know I'll be hunting for my extra set of wheels with the studded tires. You've gotta love living with four seasons! bikerHen

 

 

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