I'm with Veronica---the LLBean jeans actually fit well for those of us with smaller waists and muscular legs. LLBean has free shipping til 22 Dec or thereabouts, so there's some incentive! Lands End's relaxed fit jeans have fit OK and they recenty resized their boot cut jeans (before they made them for women w/stick legs--I had bought them and had to return them). I can usually do fine with Land's End petites because with some pants, you can select the inseam length.