one more thing....my shoes are a men's size 8.5 (42) and I normally wear a women's size 9. so, they are a little bigger than I would've expected to have to buy. I wouldn't go so much by size, as I think all shoes are always sized a bit differently, but instead by feel...I don't know how much stock you can put in advice from a girl who has had four pair of shoes in the last year though I'm not stupid (at least not usually ) so if it was as easy as I make it sound then I should've been able to get it by pair three-- at least Good Luck