Quote Originally Posted by Catriona View Post
Erm. I have a 42 or 46 cm surly pacer with a less than 500 cm top tube that I'd trade for that rawland's frame

http://www.surlybikes.com/pacer.html

YOu probably would do well on the 46 cm surly pacer that's got about a 500 mm top tube. The 50 cm has a 520 mm top tube which might still be fine on you. The rawlands you have has a 560 mm top tube - so that's 40 more & then another 40 that you have on the stem.

The surly has a steeper seat tube angle than the rawlands as well - so the seat'll be closer to the handlebars in general. The rawland's is fairly slack at 73 degrees.

but my suggestion would be for you to test ride some surlys and see how they fit.
Well.. I think the Pacer is a bit too racy for me, but I'll find one and give it a try. Luckily most shops around here are Surly dealers.lol.. so it's not hard to find a good selection.

or I will sell the Rawland frame itself for $300 or so + shipping.. if anyone is interested.. But no it's definately not a keeper for me. I spent 3+ hours this afternoon going over the measurements between the Mixte and the Rawland getting them to match.. Finally got them exactly the same measurement wise, but still no love

I have a 75 mile ride coming up on Sunday and that will be it for the Rawland... it will be disassembled and a new Surly of some flavor will take it's place next spring. Oh.. if only the $$$$ were available for a Terry Valkyrie....drool