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  1. #1
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    Gosh! I guess I've just gotten defensive after reading all the current posts. There are posted rules, and they are pretty standard. I will take a pic tomorrow. As I recall--Keep right except when passing is one, which is my biggest complaint. There is a painted yellow line, which seems mostly useless. I'm sure there are bad cyclists there, as well as bad pedestrians. My DH doesn't like riding here, because we've outgrown it--but my sister does, so we limit it to one casual ride per week. I just don't want to see my rights taken away because of a few bad apples. The 15 mph and leash limit are great ideas. I'm anxious to stop and talk to a ranger myself--we frequently say "Hi" in the early mornings as they do their morning check of the path, and that is probably why they stopped my sis to talk.

    I give pedestrians a wide berth and frequently have to stop if I can't get through. I've never hit anyone or had a confrontation. We say "Hi" to almost everyone, in an effort to show not all cyclists are jerks. A walker's dog (who keeps the well-behaved Lab on a short leash) had her paw clipped by a cyclist who didn't even stop to say he was sorry, or see if the dog was OK. Luckily, she doesn't hate cyclists, because my sister stopped and gave them a ride when it was hot and the path was closed (it's a 4 mile loop)--too long of a walk back to the car in the heat for the dog. We stay away on weekends, because it's too busy.

    We do ride on the road, but I had my closest call this morning--so I'm pretty frustrated. A textbook "Right Hook #6", right off of bicyclesafety.com. As I rode up to a red light, a car passed me on the left, then turned 90 degrees across me and slowed down to get in the right turn lane. I yelled, "HHEEEEYY!" But she was on the phone. DH wanted to pull up to her passenger window and ask why she tried to hit me, but of course, she took off. Later, DH said I should have been watching for that, and I said, "I was! I was watching the cement truck in front of her that I was sure was going to miscalculate my speed!"

    Maybe I need a massage Martian, you're right. I should be happy they are ticketing cyclists, because it should make it safer for all of us.
    Last edited by TrekTheKaty; 07-31-2009 at 07:51 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekTheKaty View Post
    I just don't want to see my rights taken away because of a few bad apples.
    Which rights are those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jobob View Post
    Which rights are those?
    I guess it's a long story and I didn't tell it all. Rumors have been circulating since spring that pedestrians wanted the trail limited--maybe "no bike" days. Of course, my question was, "I hope that doesn't happen but, if it does--when are no pedestrian days?" Nothing happened. I guess I'm just worried they will prohibit bicycles altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekTheKaty View Post
    I guess it's a long story and I didn't tell it all. Rumors have been circulating since spring that pedestrians wanted the trail limited--maybe "no bike" days. Of course, my question was, "I hope that doesn't happen but, if it does--when are no pedestrian days?" Nothing happened. I guess I'm just worried they will prohibit bicycles altogether.
    We have a mountain biking trail that has 2 "no bike" days a week. I don't like it, but that's the way it is since those before me screwed it up by being reckless.

    I'd say if you don't want to see this happen, increased enforcement and tickets are going to HELP you by either a) teaching the unsafe cyclists the error of their ways or b) hacking them off enough that they stay away. I'd much rather see it done this way than the former.

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    Update. Good news & bad news......

    I spoke with my sis again. She said the park rangers were out today educating the public. They flagged her down and explained the situation. The bad news is: someone was knocked unconscious for 5 minutes and in the hospital for 2 weeks. This is sad. I don't want anyone to get hurt while out getting fresh air and exercise at the park. She was given a handout with the list of problems that they will begin ticketing for (speeding, not announcing passing, wreckless and yelling insults?!). She said they were friendly, had bikes on their cars and were good looking (Yo, Zen. Over here, got two more men for your calendar--in uniform!)

    After awhile, they moved to the other side of the park--good, they're trying. And attempted to stopped her again. As she rolled up, the PR said, "Oh, I've already talked to you haven't I?" Then inadvertently stepped into her path, instead of off the path--then quickly hopped back out of the way. The other PR giggled and the second one burst out laughing. My sis gave them a big, sweet smile and said, "Passing on your left." She left them rolling on the ground.

    After reviewing my original post--I was angry. But now I'm depressed. My sis rides there everyday--considers many people there like neighbors. We feel betrayed and suddenly unwelcome. It hurts. I'm sure I took this all too personally. I won't be able to get out this week to talk to the rangers, but that is probably just as well. You are all correct--pedestrians do have the right-of-way, but it seems like a matter of simple courtesy. Can't we all just get along?
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    IMHO I think you're taking this way too personally, love. Someone was injured and the authorities are under pressure to do something constructive to prevent future injuries.

    It's clearly not your fault that this is happening, and unfortunately, apart from setting a good example, there's not a whole lot you can do to change it, as far as I can tell. Hopefully it'll eventually blow over and things will return to more or less normal.

    In the meantime I think your best best, like others have suggested, is to just chill and hopefully the people who caused the problems in the first place will have their asses nailed to the wall or they'll go away and find a new sandbox to play in.

    Sorry, that's all I've got. Wishing you well.

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    OK, I'm over it. Thanks for listening everyone
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