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    Quote Originally Posted by sfa View Post
    ... but they ARE consistent.

    I agree some are, and certainly they can be, but many are not. I've met people who are either members of PETA or have given money to them that keep dogs, cats, horses, etc as pets. They have no idea what PETA as an organization actually stands for.

    I've also met vegetarians that didn't think beyond the obvious and were not consistent in their reasons. I met one a few weeks ago that bought kosher meat (apparently for friends, bbq's, her dog, but not her) because she thought kosher meant the animals were slaughtered more humanely (her personal big reason for being vegetarian). She had no clue what the different slaughtering practices were, and when I told her she was horrified that she hadn't bought "normal" meat.

    Far more often than not I run into people who are not consistent/non-hypocritical than do I meet those who are, and it seems the more extreme they get and the more they pitch fits at others the less likely they are to be consistent.

    Not that I feel you need to be consistent in your reasons, or even have a reason, to make a life choice that affects you and you alone. Do what you want, and more power to you, IMO. Just don't act holyier than thou and like I'm scum of the Earth and I'll gladly return the favor, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by divingbiker View Post
    Wow, not sure what all the vegan-bashing is about, but I guess I'll just move on to another thread...
    I took it as PETA-bashing, not vegan bashing. But then I just skimmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divingbiker View Post
    Wow, not sure what all the vegan-bashing is about, but I guess I'll just move on to another thread...
    I was poking fun at PETA, not at vegans. Sorry. I just assume that all PETA people are vegans, but I certainly don't assume that all vegans support PETA.
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    Wow, not sure what all the vegan-bashing is about, but I guess I'll just move on to another thread...
    +1

    There's nothing wrong of being mindful of where your food, especially meat, is coming from and how it gets to your table. How we use animals in our culture is very telling of our culture, I think. Wasn't it Gandhi who said you can judge a society by how it treats its animals?

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    Wink Warning, don't open work or turn down volume if you do.

    Some of my best friends are vegan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc4O6v74obs

    But seriously if the artist's aim was to express the transformational nature of Lance from cancer patient to TdF winner like a butterfly that could have been done without actual wings. Would it be better without? Maybe.
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    i think my favorite of the Stages bikes is the Yoshitomo Nara! I wonder how much they'll be going for...(dream, dream)

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    Well, at least someone else said what I think...
    When I was a kid, I collected butterflies and mounted them.

    I fully admit to barely being able to stand being around any animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunacycles View Post
    +1

    There's nothing wrong of being mindful of where your food, especially meat, is coming from and how it gets to your table. How we use animals in our culture is very telling of our culture, I think. Wasn't it Gandhi who said you can judge a society by how it treats its animals?
    Seriously - everyone who is VEGAN - I am totally not bashing you at all!!

    Please understand (and yes, I am taking this a little personally) - I am so concerned about where my meat and animal products come from that I have changed my entire life and I'm now working my fingers to the bone so that I can produce this stuff myself (from happy, healthy, well-treated animals). I am the LAST person who would be putting someone down for this!!

    Let me say again that I was poking fun at PETA zealots. I was NOT poking fun at those who choose not to eat meat/animal products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by divingbiker View Post
    Wow, not sure what all the vegan-bashing is about, but I guess I'll just move on to another thread...
    Actually, for me it was more "certain animal rights activists" bashing. Vegans are consistent, and PETA is often consistent. But somehow it's always the cute and/or fluffy animals that get defended in public uproars.
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    If I'm not mistaken I believe Lance has a collection of this artist's work.

 

 

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