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  1. #1
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    not sure what to think of the butterfly bike. Is it even worth discussing the merits.

    Is it art? not sure
    is it shock art? perhaps. but then again I'm not an artist and can't give any intelligble thought on the matter.

    As for cruelty issue?

    first of all, I'm not too keen on PETA. They lack few things but seem to make up for it in their determination to be heard, to make spectacle of themselves... If you do any life cycle analysis (LCA for short) and use PETA's argument, then we do not belong on this planet.

    But back to the cruelty issue. Will the "art" undermine the efforts of endangered species act, animal rights, wildlife preservation or does it highlight the plight? I don't know.

    Personally, I would call this thing shock art at best, equivalent to a photo art of crucifix swirrling in a toilet bowl. Something Ronnie blasted while in office.

    bike is non-sequitor for me. yawnnnn....

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    Wow, not sure what all the vegan-bashing is about, but I guess I'll just move on to another thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by divingbiker View Post
    Wow, not sure what all the vegan-bashing is about, but I guess I'll just move on to another thread...
    I took it as PETA-bashing, not vegan bashing. But then I just skimmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divingbiker View Post
    Wow, not sure what all the vegan-bashing is about, but I guess I'll just move on to another thread...
    I was poking fun at PETA, not at vegans. Sorry. I just assume that all PETA people are vegans, but I certainly don't assume that all vegans support PETA.
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    Wow, not sure what all the vegan-bashing is about, but I guess I'll just move on to another thread...
    +1

    There's nothing wrong of being mindful of where your food, especially meat, is coming from and how it gets to your table. How we use animals in our culture is very telling of our culture, I think. Wasn't it Gandhi who said you can judge a society by how it treats its animals?

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    Wink Warning, don't open work or turn down volume if you do.

    Some of my best friends are vegan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc4O6v74obs

    But seriously if the artist's aim was to express the transformational nature of Lance from cancer patient to TdF winner like a butterfly that could have been done without actual wings. Would it be better without? Maybe.
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    i think my favorite of the Stages bikes is the Yoshitomo Nara! I wonder how much they'll be going for...(dream, dream)

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    Well, at least someone else said what I think...
    When I was a kid, I collected butterflies and mounted them.

    I fully admit to barely being able to stand being around any animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunacycles View Post
    +1

    There's nothing wrong of being mindful of where your food, especially meat, is coming from and how it gets to your table. How we use animals in our culture is very telling of our culture, I think. Wasn't it Gandhi who said you can judge a society by how it treats its animals?
    Seriously - everyone who is VEGAN - I am totally not bashing you at all!!

    Please understand (and yes, I am taking this a little personally) - I am so concerned about where my meat and animal products come from that I have changed my entire life and I'm now working my fingers to the bone so that I can produce this stuff myself (from happy, healthy, well-treated animals). I am the LAST person who would be putting someone down for this!!

    Let me say again that I was poking fun at PETA zealots. I was NOT poking fun at those who choose not to eat meat/animal products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by divingbiker View Post
    Wow, not sure what all the vegan-bashing is about, but I guess I'll just move on to another thread...
    Actually, for me it was more "certain animal rights activists" bashing. Vegans are consistent, and PETA is often consistent. But somehow it's always the cute and/or fluffy animals that get defended in public uproars.
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    If I'm not mistaken I believe Lance has a collection of this artist's work.

 

 

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