Trail Honey

[Irulan]

Who says you can't have it both ways? Life is too short to be confined by such rules!

What, it's ok to objectify men, but men can't objectify women? Look, I think the thread I posted a link to is ridiculous; I think women waste way too much time getting upset about this stuff, I just want to point out that there seems to be a double standard here.

Zen isn't taking pictures of these men naked on a couch with the bike behind them. She isn't taking pictures of them in a thong biking along.

But the implication (desire, hotness, companionship)is there even if it's subtle and unspoken.... it's all about degrees of appreciation, right?

[NoNo]

Why don't I have one of these trails near me?!

[TrekTheKaty]

Can't we have a little fun? I'm happily married, but I can look--or live through Zen's adventures!

Loved the Copenhagen girl--funny how art becomes pornography--in Alabama of all places! I could make a few red-neck jokes, but I'll refrain..........

[Irulan]

Sure we can - I'm all for it. I wanted to just point out how fast the panties get wadded up over female objectifying on this site, and puh-leeze don't say that because these guys have their clothes on that it's any different.

Me, I prefer shirtless firemen myself.

[Cataboo]

Sure we can - I'm all for it. I wanted to just point out how fast the panties get wadded up over female objectifying on this site, and puh-leeze don't say that because these guys have their clothes on that it's any different.

Me, I prefer shirtless firemen myself.

Excellent! And you helpfully derailed and shut down a playful thread by attempting to point out the hypocrisy of its members.

I'd debate the difference, it would just further derail the thread. So instead, I'll just roll my eyes.

[Irulan]

sorry, the hypocrisy of it annoys the *** out me, so yes, I am inclined to comment heavily on it.

[Selkie]

sorry, the hypocrisy of it annoys the *** out me, so yes, I am inclined to comment heavily on it.

I understand what you mean, but I perceive the hypocrisy a bit differently (not so much objectification but on another level). Enough said.

[Zen]

Can't we have a little fun?

For sure. Let the festivities continue

[bmccasland]

For sure. Let the festivities continue

Zen, is that your stereo system?

[sfa]

What, it's ok to objectify men, but men can't objectify women?

Objectification, by definition, is turning a person into an object--it impersonalizes the person, and I think it's odious whether done by women or men.

But this thread is the exact opposite of objectification--Zen met the guy, enjoyed talking with him, and would have liked to get to know him better. There isn't anything wrong with appreciating looks as part of the totality of a person. I don't objectify my husband by looking at the picture on my desk and thinking "oooh, nice."

And I guess it's not really the opposite of objectification--that would be personification (which I do with my bike all the time!).

Sarah