Trail Honey

[Trek420]

Next project we (the collective brain) what's the opening line that gets the guy to take his gloves off so Zen can check for the ring

[Cataboo]

Next project we (the collective brain) what's the opening line that gets the guy to take his gloves off so Zen can check for the ring

She should offer to read his palms to see whether or not his journey will have a successful ending.

[lph]

*snort*

Well, we do have the blatantly obvious "so why isn't your wife accompanying you, doesn't she like riding?"

[indigoiis]

I like how their helmets are so cavalier-ly strapped to the bike, as if to say, "hey, I got my helmet, see? I'm not just some DUI-recovering street bum, I'm a serious biking dude, I'm just not that worried about my brain so much."

You could always do the equivalent of popping your hood - stoop by the side of your bike and pretend to examine your chain. Guys dig girls who fix their own stuff. You can make it look like you're adjusting your derailleur (even though WE know you did that BEFORE you set out.)

p.s. I have never "read" you be so smitten before. He must have talked a good talk!

[Irulan]

Hey I'm all for the calendar, but there appears to be a double standard here for some ladies, you can't have it both ways.

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showt...t=objectifying

[tulip]

Who says you can't have it both ways? Life is too short to be confined by such rules!

[Irulan]

Who says you can't have it both ways? Life is too short to be confined by such rules!

What, it's ok to objectify men, but men can't objectify women? Look, I think the thread I posted a link to is ridiculous; I think women waste way too much time getting upset about this stuff, I just want to point out that there seems to be a double standard here.

Zen isn't taking pictures of these men naked on a couch with the bike behind them. She isn't taking pictures of them in a thong biking along.

But the implication (desire, hotness, companionship)is there even if it's subtle and unspoken.... it's all about degrees of appreciation, right?

[NoNo]

Why don't I have one of these trails near me?!

[sfa]

What, it's ok to objectify men, but men can't objectify women?

Objectification, by definition, is turning a person into an object--it impersonalizes the person, and I think it's odious whether done by women or men.

But this thread is the exact opposite of objectification--Zen met the guy, enjoyed talking with him, and would have liked to get to know him better. There isn't anything wrong with appreciating looks as part of the totality of a person. I don't objectify my husband by looking at the picture on my desk and thinking "oooh, nice."

And I guess it's not really the opposite of objectification--that would be personification (which I do with my bike all the time!).

Sarah

[Cataboo]

Hey I'm all for the calendar, but there appears to be a double standard here for some ladies, you can't have it both ways.

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showt...t=objectifying

Erm.

Zen isn't taking pictures of these men naked on a couch with the bike behind them. She isn't taking pictures of them in a thong biking along.

She's taking pics of them on a trail biking, she may have preferred to have them naked on her couch, but we still gotta work on her pick up lines.

It's hard to call this a double standard - most of us would have no problem with a bike calendar of women actually biking.

I will admit I only read the first page of that thread that you linked to, so maybe on the next 3 pages there's something that could be called a double standard.