TDF Discussion - here be spoilers

**spazzdog** · 07-27-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by 7rider

At least not every other commercial was some "male enhancement" product like you get on Universal Sports bike coverage.

Like many others, I have mixed feelings about Contodor. There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance, and to be a grand tour winner, you must tread it every day. Lance had/has it. Levi (bless his soul...I love the man) doesn't. That's why he's my source of perpetual frustration and he will always play second fiddle at the grand tours.

Oh yes 7rider - we got those very commercials; every one of 'em

As to the coverage, VS is an American station and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Lance owns a piece of them (speculation). They always pay huge attention to the US riders, wherever they are in the GC. Same with other networks during, say, the Olympics. I'm sure in England or Spain or where ever, their home commentators spoke mostly about their nations riders.

**SadieKate** · 07-27-2009, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by katluvr

My exact question/issue.
Loved the bike...but that helmet stood out like a sore thumb!

Even if it is garish, I prefer that the riders keep their team colors where they can. This is a team event, his team has to be able to find him, and Liquigas wants him easily identifiable as a Liquigas-sponsored rider.

**Trek420** · 07-27-2009, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by spazzdog

I went looking for translation of "contador" to see if maybe there was some marksman kind of reference. Alas, the meaning of "contador" is accountant or bookkeeper... i'm guessing the mimicry of typing numbers into an adding machine as a finish gesture wouldn't do

Maybe it's the gesture of an IRS auditor "gotcha!! I just knew you don't have reciepts for those donations!"

[QUOTE=7rider;449758]At least not every other commercial was some "male enhancement" product like you get on Universal Sports bike coverage.

QUOTE]

That's a whole nother thread "what was your least favorite commercial of the Tour"

**pll** · 07-27-2009, 05:01 PM

Anyone else suffering from tour withdrawal?

Watching the tour was fun this year and it certainly looks promising for the next one. I wish the riders would limit themselves to riding instead if the current 'war of words'... neither Contador nor Armstrong are being classy in this matter. (and I hate Contador's pistol salute, too; I hate any silly, rehearsed, salute).

**BabyBlueNTulsa** · 07-27-2009, 05:11 PM

We've got us a good ol fashioned pi**ing match, girls!

Any of you following on Twitter?? LMAO... Sorry.. I know its silly, but I'm loving this...

lancearmstrong: Seeing these comments from AC. If I were him I'd drop this drivel and start thanking his team. w/o them, he doesn't win.
Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/lancearmstrong/status/2878598422

lancearmstrong: hey pistolero, there is no "i" in "team". what did i say in March? Lots to learn. Restated.
Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/lancearmstrong/status/2878615861

DOHHHHHH. Again - sorry.. I love it when people call it like they see it. I don't even know if AC is ON Twitter... but I don't 100% follow espanol anymore anyway.. Surely one of you gals does?? We need the other side here...

**tulip** · 07-27-2009, 05:14 PM

Well, Cavendish has his phone call salute to his girlfriend...they all have some sort of gesture. I was most impressed with the German guy--Heinrich somebody? He was so moved by winning, he was crying. But then again, I am a girl.

**pll** · 07-27-2009, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by tulip

Well, Cavendish has his phone call salute to his girlfriend...they all have some sort of gesture. I was most impressed with the German guy--Heinrich somebody? He was so moved by winning, he was crying. But then again, I am a girl.

I think it's Haussler .. that was touching because it was spontaneous.

**spazzdog** · 07-27-2009, 05:29 PM

And there's the guy that does the "shooting an arrow" bit... is that Flecha?

As to the flying dirt vis-a-vis Twitter, Velonews... I find it interesting that AC states he "has never had a great admiration for him (LA) and never will."

I believe back in 2007, Contador was interviewed and was slobbering all over himself about how great a mentor LA was.

It was a bone headed idea to try and put those 2 on the same team... WAY too much ego at the dinner table. LA got his dander up and AC got his feelers hurt. Good thing the team didn't just implode...

**pll** · 07-27-2009, 05:40 PM

The other side...

Contador does not "twitt" and made some remarks in a press conference. Asked about his relation with Armstrong and whether he had anything to tell Armstrong (whom he considered an inspiration when he was recovering from the surgeries to deal with a cavernous haemangioma), he congratulated him about the third place. He considers him a great champion with an amazing performance in the tour but, at the personal level, his relation with him is non existent. He also said he never idolized him personally and won't do in the future, either. He mentioned that dealing with the tension in the hotel was almost harder than the race itself.

There are some video clips in RTVE and in El Pais. I think the less I hear from any of them, the better... I cannot stand Armstrong pretending to be a selfless team mate, especially when he directed the team to drop Contador in the third stage of the tour and has been constantly critical of him in the media. It all sounds like high school bullying to me. At least Contador did not speak about it until *after* the tour.

Originally Posted by BabyBlueNTulsa

We've got us a good ol fashioned pi**ing match, girls!

Any of you following on Twitter?? LMAO... Sorry.. I know its silly, but I'm loving this...

lancearmstrong: Seeing these comments from AC. If I were him I'd drop this drivel and start thanking his team. w/o them, he doesn't win.
Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/lancearmstrong/status/2878598422

lancearmstrong: hey pistolero, there is no "i" in "team". what did i say in March? Lots to learn. Restated.
Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/lancearmstrong/status/2878615861

DOHHHHHH. Again - sorry.. I love it when people call it like they see it. I don't even know if AC is ON Twitter... but I don't 100% follow espanol anymore anyway.. Surely one of you gals does?? We need the other side here...

**BabyBlueNTulsa** · 07-27-2009, 05:42 PM

I liked Haussler's (sp - sorry) win as well.. very emotional.

P.S. Sorry I was having a little too much enjoyment out of seeing the sudden spewing of emotions via Twitter. I guess it was inevitable it'd happen after everything...but I just want to apologize to my friends here for my own sponanteous posting. Ugh...

15 min later, I'm hoping they kiss and make up soon. No good will come of an extended p-match. Nobody looks good.

**BabyBlueNTulsa** · 07-27-2009, 05:46 PM

Guess I was posting my mea culpa when you were posting pll.

Thank you for posting more info on what AC was saying. I agree with you (after letting my own HS chanting die off)..feeling a bit silly.. but anyway...

Glad this is an international forum. Our media here is wayyyyy too one-sided.

**pll** · 07-27-2009, 05:46 PM

I'll say that Armstrong's idea of auctioning the bikes he rode in the Giro and the Tour for charity is a brilliant one.

**Zen** · 07-27-2009, 06:33 PM

lance should step AWAY from the twitter!
A little humility goes a long way.

**BabyBlueNTulsa** · 07-27-2009, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Zen

lance should step AWAY from the twitter!
A little humility goes a long way.

Yes and the same goes for AC. (humility, shutting it, and maybe thanking his team - haven't heard he's done that)

**tulip** · 07-27-2009, 06:46 PM

Twitter can only be bad...unfortunately it encourages people to twit before they think. I can't think of much good that comes from twitter.

Flecha does the arrow because his name means arrow,but you probably already knew that. If I had a cool name that meant something, I'd probably do that too, but not in a bike race because it would be highly unlikely that I would win.

pll said it best.

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