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    There's a reputation that it's common among Amish farmers in Ohio. I'm not sure how much of that is true and how much is bigotry, but it's notable that the Newsweek story is out of Lancaster County, PA, the heart of "Pennsylvania Dutch" country, which they also describe as the heart of the puppy industry.

    Still, I think the title of this thread should be "another reason not to buy animal products from a farm you haven't personally seen."
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    here they are trying to find solutions to avoid those puppy mills, but I think it's useless. Now shops are not allowed to sell puppies, you can't buy them on markets and stuff to avoid that people would buy them on impulse.

    You can only buy a puppy at a licensed breeder. Or at a illigal breeder, where puppies live in the most horrible conditions

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    I've googled Amish puppy mills and the stories I've seen are pretty horrible. I can't say I know of any other farmers operating puppy mills. There is a huge jack russell puppy mill by my mom in Ocala, they advertise having as many as 10 litters at a time. That is just one of many in Florida. We have had a great attack on puppy stores selling sick puppies from puppy mills. Criminal charges in some cases. I hope it continues. It's great that whole foods is making an effort.

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    I think, though I don't know firsthand, that the farmers in question handle dogs the same way that animals used for food are handled (I haven't seen any mention of how the cows are treated). Shutting down the puppy mills is better than nothing, though.

    I have thought about visiting the farms I buy from, but it would cost several hundred dollars in car rental. And probably make the owners paranoid, even if they have no reason to be. There are all kinds of rules for farmers participating in the NYC Greenmarket program.
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    I think the primary way to stop puppy mills is if you want a dog "shop" your local shelter first. If you want a particular breed "shop" your local breed-specific rescue group first.

    I can understand the need for respectable breeders and those working for the betterment of a breed especially for working dogs like guide dogs etc. You can find a great dog through a shelter or rescue group and you're saving a life.

    Folks there are too many dogs and not enough good loving homes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    I think the primary way to stop puppy mills is if you want a dog "shop" your local shelter first. If you want a particular breed "shop" your local breed-specific rescue group first. (
    Of course that's the primary way. Stating the solution is easy. Getting the point across to the general public is hard.

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    I have a particularly sore spot for backyard breeders, puppymillers and anyone who puts a dollar before their animals. My sweet innoncent Maggie Bear was sold off by a "backyard" style breeder - who was a VET!!!! She was sold because "she wouldn't take anymore". The sweetest dog ever but she couldn't eat from a bowl when we got her and took a long time to learn to pee on grass, not concrete. She had her ears cropped but they didn't look right, I always wondered if the Vet just wanted to teach a tech how and why not use one of the kennel dogs?All she wanted was to be held and loved. She only lived to be 9 and her breed usually lives to be 15. But her poor kidneys were done by 8.5 years. My vet did not discount it was from her past life. It broke our hearts but we are glad we gave her a better life than the first 4 years she spent cranking out puppies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    Still, I think the title of this thread should be "another reason not to buy animal products from a farm you haven't personally seen."
    Agreed.

    I heard something on the radio not too long ago about an Oregon law that was limiting the number of breeding animals a facility could have on hand at any time. There was some debate about it's effectiveness since you could be a large facility with tons of handlers and be treating your dogs better than a single backyard breeder with just one abused dog. This is true of course, but I was pleased that at least there are some legal steps being considered.
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