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  1. #1
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    However, I wouldn't dream of posting in a lecturing fashion, e.g.,
    Oh. hm:

    I doubt if you are accomplishing much by posting about it here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckervill View Post
    Oh. hm:
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    I wouldn't dream of posting in a lecturing fashion in the dog group because I want it to be a place where people new to dogs can learn.

    This thread is an entirely different matter. The internet is full of people taking a bold stand against evil and in favor of good. I love annoying them.

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    Just for the record, cos I doubt that anyone cares , I really like dogs. I prefer cats, but I still like dogs and have had two. But when a dog behaves really annoyingly I'm just not a patient enough person to not get annoyed at the dog, even though I know it's the owner who should take the rap. So I probably will continue to post about the Pom that I want to boot across the fence, and anger some of you for being childish, but still assume that most of you realize I wouldn't touch the dog IRL. A sweet-tempered dog is welcome at my door at any time, it doesn't even have to be under full control as long as it's friendly.

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    This thread definitely took a turn.

    I think anyone who takes the responsibility for a life (whether it be human or animal) has a responsibility to make the right choice when they decide to do it. I've seen pets (both cats and dogs) taken to the shelter due to convenience and lack thereof.

    When you first adopt an animal, there is adjustment. NONE of our cats are perfect (though they'd probably like you to believe it) and all went through a lot of time before they learned the rules.

    I really feel sorry for offleash/poorly trained dogs because no matter what the breed, it isn't their fault. There are some less than stellar people who seek out certain breeds just for the status factor. Yeah, I get scared when I am riding or running and there is an offleash dog but to be honest, the most nipping ones have been the smaller dogs. I've been known to yell at the owners, especially if the dog is circling me and looks menacing.

    I guess I put a lot of thought into life decisions and a pet is one of those. We can't own a dog due to time constraints and as much as I'd love to, I realize it wouldn't be fair. I have little patience or tolerance for people who take these things lightly and if I could have them put down instead of the dog, I'd probably be good with that.

    And Mimi's right re the nature of animals and size. We have a 25 lb cat who really IS a nice guy but if he takes a swipe at us (or jumps up on the bed using his claws), it is a lot more damaging than one of the 9 lb cats. It just is...it's not that he is bad but he has the capacity to hurt us even if he doesn't intend it. He also knows his size and I'm sure most animals do. Lesson learned...always cover your feet at night
    Last edited by teigyr; 07-14-2009 at 12:32 AM.

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    A 25-lb cat?? Picture, please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulip View Post
    A 25-lb cat?? Picture, please!
    What she said!
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    Quote Originally Posted by teigyr View Post
    This thread definitely took a turn.

    I think anyone who takes the responsibility for a life (whether it be human or animal) has a responsibility to make the right choice when they decide to do it. I've seen pets (both cats and dogs) taken to the shelter due to convenience and lack thereof.

    When you first adopt an animal, there is adjustment. NONE of our cats are perfect (though they'd probably like you to believe it) and all went through a lot of time before they learned the rules.

    I really feel sorry for offleash/poorly trained dogs because no matter what the breed, it isn't their fault. There are some less than stellar people who seek out certain breeds just for the status factor. Yeah, I get scared when I am riding or running and there is an offleash dog but to be honest, the most nipping ones have been the smaller dogs. I've been known to yell at the owners, especially if the dog is circling me and looks menacing.

    I guess I put a lot of thought into life decisions and a pet is one of those. We can't own a dog due to time constraints and as much as I'd love to, I realize it wouldn't be fair. I have little patience or tolerance for people who take these things lightly and if I could have them put down instead of the dog, I'd probably be good with that.

    And Mimi's right re the nature of animals and size. We have a 25 lb cat who really IS a nice guy but if he takes a swipe at us (or jumps up on the bed using his claws), it is a lot more damaging than one of the 9 lb cats. It just is...it's not that he is bad but he has the capacity to hurt us even if he doesn't intend it. He also knows his size and I'm sure most animals do. Lesson learned...always cover your feet at night

    lol...I forgot about that 25lb kitty of yours, Teigyr!

    Yes, like you, I was chiming in on the rant, in agreement against irresponsible pet owners...and not lecturing anyone here - sheesh, I've been an appreciative member of the TE forum for years and trust that most others here read my remarks as intended: speaking generically to those who let their dogs run loose...hmmm, maybe it's time I checked into that 'ignore' button for those types who state their enjoyment for annoying others...

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    I love bunnies.

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    Sorry for stirring up a poop storm. I have a very low tolerance for self-rightgeousness, and I felt compelled to 1) correct some facts and 2) add some balance. The statements seemed to be very much anti-dog and pro-cat. That was my perception, and I stand by what I wrote.

    The cat that bit me did latch on to my hand, which is why it took my slamming her against a wall to get her to "release" -- maybe she was part shark? I still have a scar from that encounter and it happened more than 30 years ago. The cat, by the way, was petite. In this instance, size had nothing to do with it.

    I agree that dog owners should both train their dogs and keep them under control. I also think that cat owners should show the same courtesy. Believe it or not, I've had more CATS run out in front of me when I'm out riding my bike (there is a strictly enforced leash law where I live---applies to dogs). Why is it ok for cats to roam free? By the way, that last sentence was tongue in cheek so please don't attack. I do appreciate them keeping the rodent population under control, so long as they don't use my garden as a bathroom.
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    I have lots of scars from where my (former) parrot bit me over the years. Ouch.

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    Why is it ok for cats to roam free? By the way, that last sentence was tongue in cheek so please don't attack.
    Why should that be tongue in cheek? Don't want to make the kitty owners mad? I detest the neighborhood cats that run free in my neighborhood. They are unlicensed, untagged, they go after the birds that nest in my yard, they use my garden beds as a toilet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickchick View Post
    Why is it ok for cats to roam free?
    I think there are plenty of us cat owners who don't think it is

    IMO, people who let their cats roam, don't really care about them, and probably shouldn't own them.... and unfortunately, many don't for long.

    Whenever our cats sneak out, we literally freak out trying to find them and get them back in - there are far too many predators out here for us to be comfortable letting them out at any time. Our kitties are indoor only!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahspins View Post
    I think there are plenty of us cat owners who don't think it is

    IMO, people who let their cats roam, don't really care about them, and probably shouldn't own them.... and unfortunately, many don't for long.

    Whenever our cats sneak out, we literally freak out trying to find them and get them back in - there are far too many predators out here for us to be comfortable letting them out at any time. Our kitties are indoor only!
    If more kitty owners thought like you, there would be less people using their legal right to check out cat traps from the pound.
    Last edited by Irulan; 07-14-2009 at 02:33 PM.

 

 

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