Bad day for celebrities

[alpinerabbit]

yeah like people like Madonna "can't stop crying": She's just shopped herself a child from Malawi. Can she stop crying about the other children who die? Obviously with ease.

It's like swine flu. It turns the attention away from the real issues.

[Cataboo]

yeah like people like Madonna "can't stop crying": She's just shopped herself a child from Malawi. Can she stop crying about the other children who die? Obviously with ease.

It's like swine flu. It turns the attention away from the real issues.

Maybe she can adopt one of MJ's kids. Angelina Jolie can have a 2nd of them.

What other celebrity collects underprivileged kids that can adopt the 3rd?

[katluvr]

Maybe she can adopt one of MJ's kids. Angelina Jolie can have a 2nd of them.

What other celebrity collects underprivileged kids that can adopt the 3rd?

Not sure all will get a chuckly out of your comment...but I did.
Yes, it is sad they died.
Yes, it is sad it is such big news.
But it is, and here some of us are interested!

It is just want of those OMG moments...media stars that have been part of my life for most of my life.

[Cataboo]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I feel horrible for MJ's kids. and Farrah's... But I can't help mocking Madonna and Angelina Jolie a bit...



As for swine flu distracting people from the real issues... It's a real issue that the world is ripe for a flu epidemic and our current system of vaccines, etc. is too cumbersome to really respond to one... And that some of our farming practices are contributing to it.

[ASammy1]

My mom called to remind me of my 5th birthday party when they hired the Michael Jackson impersonator to "sing" at my party. Then we all watched the Thriller movie.

Great times...

[Irulan]

Well I'm not going to rip anyone apart, but I really don't care and I really do resent the front page of my morning paper taken over by all this.

and the Supreme Court ruling on the middle schooler who was strip searched for tylenol in her panties only got about 3 square inches

[Cataboo]

Well I'm not going to rip anyone apart, but I really don't care and I really do resent the front page of my morning paper taken over by all this.

and the Supreme Court ruling on the middle schooler who was strip searched for tylenol in her panties only got about 3 square inches

Odd... you seem to think that our media actually reports and practices investigative journalism.

reading a newspaper is an exercise in irritation for me, even when Michael Jackson is not on the front page. I tend to try to get my news at various places over the web to try to counteract that.

[OakLeaf]

and the Supreme Court ruling on the middle schooler who was strip searched for tylenol in her panties only got about 3 square inches

except that was news from the day before. It got its run at the top of the headlines just because of the titillating subject. There have been more important stories hit the top since then, besides the celebrity deaths.

Brings us back to the other thread... people still say they read the "paper."

[alpinerabbit]

As for swine flu distracting people from the real issues... It's a real issue that the world is ripe for a flu epidemic and our current system of vaccines, etc. is too cumbersome to really respond to one... And that some of our farming practices are contributing to it.

yeah yeah. Except that it's hardly more dangerous than other strains and that it did not come from pigs. I still don't buy it.

and the Supreme Court ruling on the middle schooler who was strip searched for tylenol in her panties only got about 3 square inches

Well that was probably worth investigating. What was she doing with Tylenol in her panties??!!

[Cataboo]

I think it was ibuprofen and it's fairly common that new flus originate in pigs... Pigs can catch human flus and avian flus. humans can normally not catch avian flus, but can catch pig flus. Flu genome is divided into 8 different cassettes that are loaded into the viral capsule... if a cell is infected with multiple flus, you get various different combinations of those cassettes into the capsule... thus making pigs fairly important as an incubator of new strains which possibly combine human & avian genes. And one of the reasons that asia is so important for flus... one of those places in the world where pigs, chickens, and humans still live in close quarters.

But yeah, this flu was fairly harmless. However, no matter how harmless it is... they haven't managed to control it, they don't have a vaccine, blah blah blah... so when the next non-harmless one comes along, hopefully they've learned a bit from this.

[Zen]

But yeah, this flu was fairly harmless. However, no matter how harmless it is... they haven't managed to control it, they don't have a vaccine, blah blah blah... so when the next non-harmless one comes along, hopefully they've learned a bit from this.

If this flu is anything like the Spanish influenza virus of 1918 (and I do believe that's the current thinking) it will reemerge in a more virulent form this fall.
But you have to read science news to know that. The general public doesn't go beyond the home page on their computer.

[Irulan]

yeah yeah. Except that it's hardly more dangerous than other strains and that it did not come from pigs. I still don't buy it.

Well that was probably worth investigating. What was she doing with Tylenol in her panties??!!

She didn't have any. Being asked to strip down to your panties, pull them open to expose your pelvic are on suspicion of ADVIL, when there was absolutely no reason to indicate that this girl was in possession of drugs ( ie, not a druggie type) is ridiculous and for one am very glad that the SC ruled the way they did, this is taking zero tolerance too far.

Fourth Amendment Victory in Advil Strip Search Case

Jacob Sullum | June 25, 2009, 12:24pm

Today, in an 8-to-1 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed that Arizona public school officials violated the Fourth Amendment rights of a 13-year-old eighth-grader when they subjected her to a strip search because they thought she might be hiding ibuprofen in her underwear. David Souter wrote for the majority:

What was missing from the suspected facts that pointed to Savana [Redding] was any indication of danger to the students from the power of the drugs or their quantity, and any reason to suppose that Savana was carrying pills in her underwear. We think that the combination of these deficiencies was fatal to finding the search reasonable.

At the same time, unlike the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, the Supreme Court said Kerry Wilson, the vice principal who ordered the search, cannot be held personally liable for the violation because the relevant law was not clear enough at the time. "Because there were no reasons to suspect the drugs presented a danger or were concealed in her underwear," Souter wrote, "we hold that the search did violate the Constitution, but because there is reason to question the clarity with which the right was established, the official who ordered the unconstitutional search is entitled to qualified immunity from liability."

As I've said before, this is the best result that reasonably could have been expected, but I am surprised by the size of the majority, especially since it seemed there was a good chance the Court would uphold the search. The lone dissenter was Clarence Thomas, who has always taken a narrow view of minors' constitutional rights in the context of school and looked askance at judicial efforts to constrain administrators' authority.

Notably, the position taken by the majority is less deferential to school officials than the one urged by the Obama administration. As common sense would suggest, the Supreme Court considered it relevant not only that there was no reason to think Savana Redding had pills in her crotch or cleavage but also that the pills in question did not pose a significant threat to students' health or safety:

Wilson knew beforehand that the pills were prescription-strength ibuprofen and over-the-counter naproxen, common pain relievers equivalent to two Advil, or one Aleve. He must have been aware of the nature and limited threat of the specific drugs he was searching for, and while just about anything can be taken in quantities that will do real harm, Wilson had no reason to suspect that large amounts of the drugs were being passed around, or that individual students were receiving great numbers of pills.

By contrast, Acting Solicitor General Edwin Kneedler argued that the Court should defer to school officials' judgment about the importance of enforcing their mindless "zero tolerance" policy for drugs and find the strip search unreasonable only because there was insufficient reason to believe it would reveal contraband.

[papaver]

Maybe she can adopt one of MJ's kids. Angelina Jolie can have a 2nd of them.

What other celebrity collects underprivileged kids that can adopt the 3rd?

You should listen to this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK26ojnNtW4

It's about the 'new fashions'...