How many hours/miles do you put on a new saddle before you decide to take back?

[arielmoon]

A note about shorts: Something I learned is that TOO much padding on shorts can be just as bad... it causes 'squishing' thus causing discomfort.

I love my sheebeest and wear them on all of my rides!

Yup, same for me. More padding does not equal more comfort. I still use my PI's but I much prefer the Sheebeest!

[teawoman]

I wanted a longer distance saddle, and for me, the pain and ugly would set in at about 3 hours of riding, so I was happy when I managed to do 7 on a new saddle. Made it difficult and expensive to try out saddles, though.

I find, like the others who've posted, that some depends on the shorts, though, especially on longer trips. I did 320k over 3 days and found out that one pair of my 3 didn't work too well.