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  1. #1
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    In Smart Cycling, we teach an avoidance maneuver called the "Quick Turn," or sometimes "Instant Turn." Essentially you twitch the handlebars opposite the direction you want/need to go in order to force the bike to lean in that direction, then take advantage of the forced lean to carve the turn more sharply. In racing, you'd call this "countersteering."

    We teach you to turn 90 degrees inside a 4 to 6-foot spacing; with a little practice you can turn more sharply than this.

    At your usual riding speed, assume that a car has turned in front of you and you need to turn inside him/her in order to avoid a collision. To force a right turn, twitch your handlebar briefly toward the left. This will make the bike lean slightly to the right. As soon as you feel the bike lean, put your left (outside) pedal down and weight it, tuck your right elbow in to put the bike in a tight right turn, and look up and out to the line you want to follow.

    Five simple steps:

    1. NO BRAKES!! (Braked wheels want to go straight, not to turn)
    2. TWITCH THE BARS tostart the lean
    3. OUTSIDE PEDAL DOWN
    4. INSIDE ELBOW IN
    5. LOOK UP!! (Look at where you intend to go, and the bike will almost always follow your gaze...)

    We usually teach this to the right, since in collision avoidance that's the shortest route to the curb and a place of relative safety. It also works to the left... so if you're cornering in a race this can let you cut inside the pack and maybe get a jump on your competitors coming out of the corner...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PscyclePath View Post
    Five simple steps:

    1. NO BRAKES!! (Braked wheels want to go straight, not to turn)
    2. TWITCH THE BARS tostart the lean
    3. OUTSIDE PEDAL DOWN
    4. INSIDE ELBOW IN
    5. LOOK UP!! (Look at where you intend to go, and the bike will almost always follow your gaze...)

    We usually teach this to the right, since in collision avoidance that's the shortest route to the curb and a place of relative safety. It also works to the left... so if you're cornering in a race this can let you cut inside the pack and maybe get a jump on your competitors coming out of the corner...
    ooh, I need to try this out tonight...

    Thanks for all the tips!

    Reading through things.. I think I'm just afraid of falling, which is silly. Leaning just feels very weird to me. I just need to get comfortable.
    Last edited by lo123; 06-18-2009 at 07:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lo123 View Post
    Reading through things.. I think I'm just afraid of falling, which is silly. Leaning just feels very weird to me. I just need to get comfortable.
    Leading into the Quick Turn, we put you you through a couple of preliminary drills... the "rock dodge," which is essentially twitching the bars so as to make a quick "dodge" around an object without leaning or turning the bike, then an "avoidance weave," sort of a little slalom course to help you get used to sterring the bike by leaning and shifting your weight, as well as getting used to the bike while it's leaned a little bit. Then we go into the quick turn.

    It takes a little practice, but it's a trick that's saved me from a crash a more more times than I really want to remember ;-)

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    Once you learn how to lean into a corner, your turns will get better. If you put your outside pedal down, it will help you balance. If you've ridden horses, the difference between going through a turn "upright" vs. going through a turn "leaning" is like the difference between a "bending" turn like you'd do in dressage or jumping vs. a "haul *ss" turn like you'd see in barrel racing



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    RE: Leaning at speed.

    I like the barrel racing analogy.

    I will add that the advice I got (often and with much emphasis) is that your bike/horse/skateboard/etc. WILL go where your nose is pointing.

    One other thing. Turning, like everything else, yields to practice. Go to an empty parking lot and ride tight circles around the light poles, and whatever else you find there. Find out where your tolerances are, then push them. Then speed up. (/violin teacher)
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    About your fear of falling...

    I first learned to lean into fast turns when I was a child on the back of a motorcycle. My natural instinct, of course, was to sit bolt upright. The person giving me a ride stopped immediately and explaned it this way to me: If you're sitting upright, your weight is actually forcing the bike closer to the ground, which actually makes it more likely the bike will "drop". As he showed me with his hands, there are two options (you've really got to use your imagination here):

    With leaning:
    ./ ...<-person
    / .... <-bike

    Without leaning:
    . I .. <-person
    -- ... <-bike

    That got my attention enough to get me to always lean with the bike into a fast turn, whether the bike has a motor or not!
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    That's a great explanation. Diagrams are always helpful

    But, as you lean, also remember to put your weight on the outside foot. That makes a huge difference. Once I learned to do that (who'm I kidding? I'm still in the process of learning it), I felt much more comfortable leaning my body.
    "How about if we all just try to follow these very simple rules of the road? Drive like the person ahead on the bike is your son/daughter. Ride like the cars are ambulances carrying your loved ones to the emergency room. This should cover everything, unless you are a complete sociopath."
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