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  1. #1
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    Grant drives me nuts, but has a lot of followers, doesn't really matter as long as you are out on a bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. SR500 View Post
    Grant drives me nuts,
    Why? Have you ever had a conversation with him?


    Veronica
    Discipline is remembering what you want.


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  3. #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica View Post
    Why? Have you ever had a conversation with him?


    Veronica
    Now we're debating

    And cycling shoes; do you prefer spike heels or pumps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    Now we're debating
    No, I just get annoyed when people make assumptions about someone whom they have never met. There's this assumption that Riv and Grant only build "retro" old fashioned bikes. Having worked with them to build up my double century bike, which is now the bike I use for triathlon, I can tell you, they build you the bike you want.

    That's Grant's whole point. Get the bike you want, that suits you and how you ride.


    Veronica
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  5. #5
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    I've read that some find him oh I dunno opinionated? When you build one of the worlds best bikes you are entitled to your opinions

    I've never met the guy. When Knott and I went on a pilgrimage to "the shrine of steel lugged bikes" we saw his bike.

    Does that count?

    As for the shoe debate while I ride clipless most days but I have to agree with him in some ways. On the advice of my LBS (hi Chirs!) I got BMX style pedals on my freewheel mixte. Well really he chose them, I had no say in the matter.

    They are shockingly surprisingly grippy. I'd consider them for my commuter and probably never miss the clipless.

    Riding with a broken toe I need the support of a stiff sole and that alone is a benefit to bike shoes.
    Last edited by Trek420; 06-17-2009 at 06:13 AM.
    Fancy Schmancy Custom Road bike ~ Mondonico Futura Legero
    Found on side of the road bike ~ Motobecane Mixte
    Gravel bike ~ Salsa Vaya
    Favorite bike ~ Soma Buena Vista mixte
    Folder ~ Brompton
    N+1 ~ My seat on the Rover recumbent tandem
    https://www.instagram.com/pugsley_adventuredog/

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    All I know is that one of the things I remember most clearly from 23 years ago is making the transition from sneakers to stiff nylon soled cleated cycling shoes. (This was before clipless and carbon soles. ) Same bike, same legs, same pedals, same toe clips, same route, not even trying to push, it was good for an average 1.5 mph. Way too much to be a placebo effect.

    Clipless just made it safer since I could get a foot out without having to take a hand off the bars.

    As I've said before, how soon we forget.


    I've got platforms on my commuter and ride that in sneakers, crocs, loafers, sandals, dress shoes, even low heels. Obviously it's more convenient. But for pedaling efficiency and comfort, I don't see any comparison.
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 06-17-2009 at 07:04 AM.
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    Ok, Grant's "Writings" drive me nuts. I'm sure he is a great guy, but he often comes across as "my way is best". That said, I believe ride what you want and enjoy - it's all good.

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica View Post
    Why? Have you ever had a conversation with him?


    Veronica
    No, but he stopped making the bike I wanted in my size - and who knows if he'll ever bring it back I've tried (and failed) to find one in good used condition.

    *sigh*

    There's a debate - which bike for what?

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