Remind me why I'm doing this??

[Becky]

(((Mayanorange)))

I'm sorry that you're having such a rough go of it. This sentence really stuck out at me, "Our weekends consist of not much more than being on the bikes the whole time and I still haven't figured out food/salt intake, so I'm alternating bonking and low salt headaches and just generally starting to hate riding. "

Is it possible that you're overtraining? Maybe it's time for a day off to do nothing more than putter around the house.

I've gone through phases where I really hated riding. And it does pass....but don't force yourself through it.

Hang in there!

[smilingcat]

sounds like you are overdoing it. Give yourself a break from cycling even a day.

and +1 on alpinerabbit

[Biciclista]

The people I ride with don't generally wait for me on hills until they get up to the top. Then as soon as they see me cresting they generally go ahead.
You need to talk to the people you ride with and let them know what is ok. If they can't be bothering to wait for you after you ASKED them to, then maybe they're the wrong team. Going uphill is pretty individual, or maybe your hills aren't as steep as ours (folks don't generally draft up hills)

And maybe you need to find a group with a different pace?

I'm sorry this is so hard for you. I'm generally in the back too, I know how it feels. And i'm not the only woman.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

I just would say this- my husband and I found group riding to be somewhat unpleasant. Too competitive and hectic for our taste. We like to take long country rides and really stop and smell the flowers and hear the crickets and take our time when we please, as opposed to 'keeping up' with anyone. We love to ride us two together, or with a friend or two as well, or often just by ourselves as well.
Consider all the various ways of enjoying biking. Perhaps a little break from club riding would help you reduce stress?

[mayanorange]

Thanks guys. I needed some moral support. Yeah, I think I'm overtraining a smidge (or at least not getting enough me time recently). This past weekend we literally got up Sat morning, biked 45 miles (which took us about 4 hrs), I showered in 5 secs then went to cover the toy store for 4 hrs as a favor, then Sunday got up and biked 60 miles which took about 7 hrs including stopping at an open house, a lunch stop, and a few snack stops. And a 5 mile wrong turn that took us over a nasty hill that we then had to return over! I did discover my new favorite thing on Sunday tho- Gatorade X factor. It's just what I needed. My appetite tends to go south after about an hour, so I think I do need to make sure I have a drink with carbs in it.

I feel like I *have* to get at least 120 miles in this weekend, then was going to do an easy weekend next week, then the week after is the MS150. At least the good news is the climbing we did sunday in 60 miles is equal to the climbing in day one's 75 miles, so I know I can climb that far and survive! I'm pondering taking the train in tomorrow then biking a long route home (it's 30 miles normally) after a half day so I can have Sunday back as a rest day.

[shootingstar]

Thanks guys. I needed some moral support. Yeah, I think I'm overtraining a smidge (or at least not getting enough me time recently). This past weekend we literally got up Sat morning, biked 45 miles (which took us about 4 hrs), I showered in 5 secs then went to cover the toy store for 4 hrs as a favor, then Sunday got up and biked 60 miles which took about 7 hrs including stopping at an open house, a lunch stop, and a few snack stops. And a 5 mile wrong turn that took us over a nasty hill that we then had to return over! I did discover my new favorite thing on Sunday tho- Gatorade X factor. It's just what I needed. My appetite tends to go south after about an hour, so I think I do need to make sure I have a drink with carbs in it.

I feel like I *have* to get at least 120 miles in this weekend, then was going to do an easy weekend next week, then the week after is the MS150. At least the good news is the climbing we did sunday in 60 miles is equal to the climbing in day one's 75 miles, so I know I can climb that far and survive! I'm pondering taking the train in tomorrow then biking a long route home (it's 30 miles normally) after a half day so I can have Sunday back as a rest day.

Sounds like by now you've figured out some solutions for yourself. Do you tend to be more a group rider to stay motivated and remain a fit rider? The most important thing to aim for long-term, is trying different mechanisms to keep your love of cycling so that you will stay on the bike for many years ahead.

I go in group rides only a handful times annually. Other times for regular cycling throughout the year, I'm riding solo or with 1 other person (usually my partner, who also rides solo other times).

I've been cycling regularily for over past 17 yrs. since it is part of our lifestyle. I'm not a great fit cyclist and am not working towards being even a wow-she-elder-superstar on bike. Yes, I absolutely can claim some cycling years of 6,000 kms. annual mileage, other years abit lower totals. (This yr. will easily put in 7,000+ kms. because I have more personal time now for abit more cycling.) I can look back to several long cycling self-loaded trips as real accomplishments. So for me, cycling achievement is not measured on keeping up with the cycling pack. For my age bracket, my health is diagnosed by the doctor as excellent and my weight during all the cycling years has ranged 93-100 lbs.

And I eat well.

If I did group riding regularily which would have led me to inadvertedly benchmarking my performance against others alot, my ego (or patience with conforming to a group) would have shattered a long time ago and most likely I wouldn't have continued to do as much cycling as I have up to now. It does help to cycle with at least 1 other cyclist who is better so that one doesn't totally slack off in cycling style.

i feel no guilt for not being more cycling-competitive, not pushing myself to the ultimate limit...I've already demonstrated competitiveness in other areas of my life where the struggles are far greater.

[jobob]

If you find the right group of people, group rides are great fun, but if you don't, then notsomuch.

I hope you can find a good group (or friend or two) to ride with.

[MartianDestiny]

I'm sorry your having some bad days with your group.

Perhaps it's time to find a group more suited for you?

The group I ride with has a standing policy "hills are fair game, on your mark, get set, GO!" They wait at the top or bottom by soft pedaling (not actually stopping and waiting). When I ride with them I have to be of the mindset that it's OK to get dropped and ride alone, especially when they do big hills.

But that was made clear from the get go. I'd be really frustrated too if that wasn't supposed to be the policy and they kept leaving me in the dust.

And every time I ride with them I become a better rider, but I have to be in the right mindset for it or I too end up in grrrrr mode.

[ttaylor508]

I think at some point we have all been dropped on a ride and it ALWAYS SUCKS. Nothing zaps my energy more than trying to play catch-up the whole ride. You are probably putting so much pressure on yourself because of this upcoming ride that you are actually wasting a lot of your energy trying to keep up with the group and worrying if you are going to be ready or not.

From the mileage you have talked about doing so far, I think you will be plenty prepared. Try to just relax and think of what comes after the MS150, what cycling things can you do JUST FOR FUN without the pressure of an upcoming event. You might try doing some training rides alone so you can hone in on your exertion levels, find a good pace and focus on your refueling. I find cycling alone makes me stronger when I do ride in a group.

[arielmoon]

I agree with ttaylor. Sounds to me like you are very prepared for the MS ride. It is not a race. It is a charity ride!

It is possible you didnt have the best ride with the best group that night but I wouldnt let one experience set the tone for the fantastic things you are doing.

Personally I like to ride with stronger riders on the weekly group ride because my riding partner is not as strong as me. I can push more when I ride solo but the group can really make me push that little bit more. I can really see and feel a difference afterward in my speed and endurance.

[mayanorange]

tt and ariel- thanks guys. I haven't done a big ride before. All I have to go on is a couple suggested training things I found online who insist you should do about 80% of the final distance before the big ride, so that's why I have been aiming there. I'd like to keep up a decent pace although I tend to be a stop and smell the roses cyclist. DH isn't, so we both kinda compromise on speed. We've been joining this wed night group as a shorter let's go fast ride, but it alternates between like last night where the boys dust one or both of us and the leader asking us to take the slow group who usually didn't start training as early as us, so it's a pleasant ride, but not a speed workout.