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    Since uforgot sold her raleigh for $300, you're probably paying what it's worth. It's one of those vintage classic bikes, and its value is dependent on what people are willing to pay for it... So it's hard to say whether or not it's worth it, that's dependent on you.

    Your hybrid probably isn't geared as easily, it's heavier, it's got bigger tires with more rolling resistance, so it takes more work to get it moving than the raleigh - so you're running into your legs being the problem before your aerobic fitness is the problem. The raleigh is probably comparatively very easy to move in than the hybrid.

    My surly's got 700x28 tires on it, I've got it set up as a flat bar & with the commuting rack, fenders, etc., it ends up being probably about 25 lbs. My legs get tired moving that far before I get out of breath. My road bikes, my legs never get tired, but I have & puff up hills.

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    Catriona, thanks for giving those examples! That makes sense to me now, and sets my mind at rest.

    I noticed this morning there's one other thing I need to evaluate about this bike, and I don't think it's anything anyone else can help me with. Getting on this bike feels more like a chore than like something I do for fun. Gotta try to decide whether I just need to get used to it or not.* But you've all helped me decide that in all other ways it's a fine bike for me!

    *Because like they say, the most expensive bike is the one you let sit in the garage because you don't like riding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millefolia View Post

    I noticed this morning there's one other thing I need to evaluate about this bike, and I don't think it's anything anyone else can help me with. Getting on this bike feels more like a chore than like something I do for fun. Gotta try to decide whether I just need to get used to it or not.* But you've all helped me decide that in all other ways it's a fine bike for me!

    *Because like they say, the most expensive bike is the one you let sit in the garage because you don't like riding it.

    Go out and test ride a few new road bikes at a bike shop. Just to get a feel for whether you want vintage steel in the long run or something newer - and whether how the bike feels/rides is part of it feeling like a chore.

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    please go out and try a new road bike. if you have to, go to a different bike shop.

    I was able to wear myself out faster on my new road bike too, but it was because I was going faster. It never felt like a chore to get onto the bike though! (that's a bad sign)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biciclista View Post
    I was able to wear myself out faster on my new road bike too, but it was because I was going faster. It never felt like a chore to get onto the bike though! (that's a bad sign)
    I agree with Biciclista. Sometimes it feels like a chore to get on the commuter with 30lbs of books on my back in the pouring rain, but it's never a chore to get on my "fun" bike and the "fun" bike causes me O so much more pain (the good kind, but still).

    If you have to force yourself to get on it, do go try some different bikes while you still have the opportunity to return it

    In addition to what others have said, the out of breath feeling could be due to bike setup as well. The more aggressive positioning on a drop bar roadbike can make it harder to fully inflate your lungs. It may be something you just need to get used to and be aware of, or you may have too much saddle to bar drop for your current level (this is generally not hard to fix if you have some steerer left or can put a more angled stem on). Just one more reason why you may be more out of breath on the new bike.

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    Catriona, Biciclista, MartianDestiny: OK, OK, I'll go try some more road bikes tonight! :-) I'm lucky enough to have lots of good local bike shops, so I'll hit as many as I have time for before they start closing tonight. (Thursday is my last day to return this one if necessary, so I aim to have a decision made by tomorrow night.)

    Re it feeling like a chore: I think a big part of it is that mounting and dismounting is harder than on my hybrid--the seat is higher relative to the ground, though the same height relative to my feet on the pedals. That's why I say it might be something I'd get used to. But as you'd expect, I want to be sure!

    Thank you all again for your suggestions.

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    A pic as requested! The seat is not original, I added it last night to make sure that any discomfort was from the bike, not the seat. This one is a Selle Lookin; I've used Selle's Ergogel and Respiro saddles in the past and like them a lot, so I thought I'd give the Lookin a try.

    Side note: Since I haven't been on this forum long, I'm not sure what the etiquette is here regarding images. Is this one too big, or anything?
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    Oooh. It's a mixte!

    you'll maybe have to put it in the show us your mixte thread.

    Your saddle's maybe a teensy bit above your handlebars which might cant you forward a bit... but it shouldn't be too bad.

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    Catriona, I didn't know that about saddle vs. handlebar position, thanks! They did raise the handlebars as far as they could at the store, I'd have to buy a different stem to raise them any further.

    I'd never heard of mixtes until Saturday. The bike I tried right before this one was another mixte and since I liked that one but wasn't sure, they showed me this one too and I liked it better. But now that I know what they are, I know that my oldest bike is also a mixte--it's a John Deere from the few years in the middle of the 70s when John Deere was making bikes in addition to tractors. Five-speed, very comfortable for short fun rides but not so good for longer or hillier rides (I want more gears!). It's a cute bike and I'd love to post pics of it, I'll see if I have any here or if I'll have to wait til I get home. And if I keep this one I'll post it there too. :-)

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    You're right that it's an 80s Raleigh. The made in Japan ones do not have the resale value or quality of the 60s/ 70s made in England Reynolds steel Raleighs. I wouldn't pay over $150-200 for that bike and would expect $100-120 as a sweet deal (they are findable). Maybe if someone had upgraded the components would it be worth $300, but I really think that's a bit much. She's very cute tho, so see what you can do about bartering that price down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayanorange View Post
    Maybe if someone had upgraded the components would it be worth $300, but I really think that's a bit much.
    WAY too much. Half that price, yes but there are decent new bikes to be had for five or six hundred dollars.
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