Custom bike building

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Not sure how to answer.

I had the custom framebuilder build the bike. (Margo at Lunacycles)
Making the custom frame and building it up as a complete bike was the whole package.
I don't really have an 'LBS'.

Is there a poll answer choice for this??

[7rider]

My LBS is a Seven dealer and handled all parts of the build for me.
I think I supplied them with my saddle.
I trust my shop completely. I tell them what I want and what I'm aiming for...and they are there with sound recommendations for me. They work with me and for me - my LBS advocates for me with the builder and suppliers. The shop is vested in the bike - and in me as a satisfied customer. They are there to answer any and all stupid questions I come to them with.
I can't honestly tell you if it costs me more money to do it that way - but it saves me time and aggravation. And that certainly counts for something.

[Eden]

Not sure how to answer.

I had the custom framebuilder build the bike. (Margo at Lunacycles)
Making the custom frame and building it up as a complete bike was the whole package.
I don't really have an 'LBS'.

Is there a poll answer choice for this??

That's not really the question she's asking, she's not doing a custom bike, but rather a custom build of a stock frame.

I won a frame, fork and headset and went the LBS route. I had some components (wheels, brifters, handlebars, seat post) and ordered some through him (brakes, derailleurs, crankset, bb, all the small parts).

Yeah I could have done most of the work myself (I don't remember if the fork was already pressed in - I don't think I could have done that....), but I wanted to support him - he was a pretty new shop at the time, he was going to have the right tools for the job (we didn't have tools for servicing outboard bottom brackets at home at that time) and it saved me a lot of messing around.

[Biciclista]

I had a custom frame made for me at my LBS. I got almost all the parts for it myself and brought them into the shop in a box. They put it all together.

[Crankin]

Last summer, in the course of giving me an "exchange" frame for the one that was too big, I realized that I was indeed, more knowledgeable about some women specific issues than my LBS. I had them transfer over all of the components, but I wanted different, short reach brifters and a short reach, shallow drop bar. I had to do all of the research myself. I found that it was cheaper for the LBS to order the brifters; I could not find anyplace that would give me a better price than they could get. However, I was on my own for the bars. I did the on line research and bought them at a larger LBS. I was happy to pay for the labor.

I am figuring that my graduation present for myself in 2 years is going to be a custom bike. I have a lot of biomechanical issues that have fallen on deaf ears. While my husband could and has built up bikes for my son, I will most likely go to Seven, since they are close by. I am not mechanical enough to do anything myself and I am happy to do it the way Lisa did, as a package.

[Cataboo]

I haven't actually gotten a custom frame, but I've bought frames, bought all the parts, and then built it all up myself. Most of the pieces came from online or ebay, but some things were just bought at local bike shops - chains, cables, things like that.

I never priced it out how much it would have been if I'd gone to a bike shop, but I'm assuming a lot more expensive and then I wouldn't have had as much "fun"

[lunacycles]

Bike shops that sell frames to the customer make very little on the frames (usually around 30%). They only offer this service (selling frame only) because they hope to make a bit more money off of the build. If you appreciate having the option to buy a frame through your LBS and do a custom build, you may consider having your shop do the build and sell you the parts, as it makes that service sustainable for them. Unless you or your friend are very skilled and experienced with complete bike builds, they also tend to have a much better chance of getting it right the first time, and of honoring the work they did.

If you are getting a "custom" frame, as Eden and Lisa implied, many framebuilders offer a "complete bike option," and usually the price is reasonable. There is very little overlap between actual custom framebuilders and bike shops these days. The reasons are mostly financial--in general, a true custom builder cannot afford a wholesale structure, and must sell direct to the consumer to have a decent chance to make a living.

Companies like Seven and Serotta are not considered custom framebuilders, but low-volume manufacturers. (That's another story for another thread)

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

That's not really the question she's asking, she's not doing a custom bike, but rather a custom build of a stock frame.

Oh, ok. I was confused because the thread was titled "Custom Bike Building".

[tulip]

It's really poor form to bring parts into a shop and have them put the parts on. If you get your frame elsewhere, you might want to consider supporting your local bike shop by purchasing the parts and having them build it up. It may cost more than getting all the parts on the internet, but it'll be alot more convenient and will support the bike shop. I wouldn't know what parts are the best fit for my bike and my riding style. The bike shop's expertise is in itself worth something to me.

I wonder when I hear the lament of local bike shops that have gone under--did the lamenters support them when they were in business?

[Reesha]

Well, the 575 is certainly a 'reach' bike if you know what I mean. I could afford it with my last shop, but now I'm in St. Louis and the shops seem a lot less personable and I worry that I wouldn't be able to afford it with certain shops labor costs. Like if you're not in with them, they won't listen, or they might be elitist? That's the worst feeling. When they treat you like you know nothing or have no idea what you want. My other bike shop in Lake Placid was very much like that... I bought a road bike off them, but I wouldn't have them do a custom bike for me because it would be so so expensive.

So anyway, I figure if I bought some of the parts online, I might be able to shave off some of the expenses.

[uforgot]

Well, the 575 is certainly a 'reach' bike if you know what I mean. I could afford it with my last shop, but now I'm in St. Louis and the shops seem a lot less personable and I worry that I wouldn't be able to afford it with certain shops labor costs. Like if you're not in with them, they won't listen, or they might be elitist? That's the worst feeling. When they treat you like you know nothing or have no idea what you want. My other bike shop in Lake Placid was very much like that... I bought a road bike off them, but I wouldn't have them do a custom bike for me because it would be so so expensive.

So anyway, I figure if I bought some of the parts online, I might be able to shave off some of the expenses.

Reesha - You can go to the St. Louis biking message board for advice. I think Mr. Silver seems to be happy with Big Shark, and Traci at the Alpine Shop always drops whatever she is doing and takes a lot of time with me. She is solidly into the whole mountain biking thing and has helped fastdogs with her bikes.

I think I have visited every shop in St. Louis at one time or another, and some are definitely better than others. My lbs is in Rolla. He takes a lot of time with me when I go into the shop and leans toward the single speed, mtb side. He built up my Surly for me giving me exactly what I wanted and no more. It's a couple of hours from St. Louis though. Perhaps others can give recommendations in the area?

[Reesha]

Well I've been using Big Shark mostly, as they're one of my bike team's sponsors. They just seem... realllly big! Although, they do seem to be one of the friendliest toward beginners so I always refer my friends that want a first bike to them.

I've only had one Alpine Shop experience so far and I was a bit disappointed. It was just one young guy and basically ignored me for forty minutes or so even when I was the only one in the bike area. I'd ask about trying out a bike but then he'd preoccupy himself with another customer who comes in after... eventually I just walked out. I was all because I was very polite. Did I smell perhaps? Anyway, I won't hold it against the shop because anyone could have a bad experience, but I feel a little sheepish like maybe I did smell. I figure it's best to visit the Alpine shop when its not busy. They do deal in Salsa and I have thought about building an El Kaboing... so maybe?

Also... you're totally right. I've been a member of STLBiking for many a month now and hadn't thought of asking them. I might even find someone willing to do the work separate from a bike shop if I have all the parts.