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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedal Wench View Post
    I do a LOT of organized rides. I only pre-register if there's a chance it will sell out. With weather issues, work stuff, etc., I would just rather wait.
    What she said. Generally, I will pregister only if have to and/or there's a decent discount for registering early.

    As far as charity events, I'd add that it usually takes more than one year to break even or make a substantial money. It's too bad the Lion's Club threw in the towel without at least giving it a couple of years.
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    I usually pre-register for foot races, just because the commitment gives me motivation to train and run.

    For overnight cycling tours, usually pre-registration is required.

    Not so much for day rides. If the weather's crummy, I won't ride, I'm a wuss, I'm only riding for fun and nasty grit is not my idea of fun. So I'll eat the $5 or whatever pre-registration discount and just show up on the day-of.

    But a charity ride, I would think that (1) most of the financial support should come from corporate sponsors, not riders, so the "lack of support" probably has more to do with the organizers not doing their job, not you; and (2) pre-registration is usually required so that people can donate online, riders can meet their minimum donations, etc.


    ETA: Now that that much of the work's been done, why not turn this into a fundraiser for YOUR club, on a later date? I get that there's still a LOT of work involved - marking the route, arranging insurance, sag service, etc. - but it would be better than letting your planning go to waste, n'est-ce pas?
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 05-25-2009 at 04:51 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    I usually pre-register for foot races, just because the commitment gives me motivation to train and run.

    For overnight cycling tours, usually pre-registration is required.
    Oh yeah - for my big goal rides, I absolutely sign up - I'll probably ride them rain or shine, so the big rides I sign up for early.

    I also figure the day-off extra money goes to the cause, so that's not bad, right?
    For 3 days, I get to part of a thousand other journeys.

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    In the past, I've sometimes waited until the "day of" the event if:

    --it was a ride I would only do if the weather was nice
    --the ride was run by a charity (not a bike club)
    --it was a ride where I was making the charitable contribution myself (rather than collecting money)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    I usually pre-register for foot races, just because the commitment gives me motivation to train and run.

    For overnight cycling tours, usually pre-registration is required.

    Not so much for day rides. If the weather's crummy, I won't ride, I'm a wuss, I'm only riding for fun and nasty grit is not my idea of fun. So I'll eat the $5 or whatever pre-registration discount and just show up on the day-of.

    But a charity ride, I would think that (1) most of the financial support should come from corporate sponsors, not riders, so the "lack of support" probably has more to do with the organizers not doing their job, not you; and (2) pre-registration is usually required so that people can donate online, riders can meet their minimum donations, etc.


    ETA: Now that that much of the work's been done, why not turn this into a fundraiser for YOUR club, on a later date? I get that there's still a LOT of work involved - marking the route, arranging insurance, sag service, etc. - but it would be better than letting your planning go to waste, n'est-ce pas?
    I'm thinking that even though we weren't set up for pledges and all that... that if that's the model they were thinking of, then our model would be very nervous-making, since they don't see any real inflow until they've done most of the outflow and they're not deailing with their ongoing relationships with corporate sponsors, but the vagaries of the general public. Doesn't mean I like it, but it makes more sense.

    The folks in town were going to hold the ride, take donations and give it to the charity; two of the folks generally go for a fund-raising ride for them (but raise the funds for our local branch), so it might go into their pledges... I don't know. I do know that they were worried that cyclists might be reluctant to pledge for them after this happened (The route was directly connected to the charity's work, too, but that we could work with.)
    Last edited by Geonz; 05-26-2009 at 05:40 AM.

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    as someone who helps to put on events. I really hate the last minute thing. It really screws up the planning. How many Tshirts to order, how much food etc.

    I like the model where there is a cut off date to get in. While I do understand the spontaneity thing, I think that registering ahead is the courteous thing to do.

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    Yea, and I think that is where the whole communication thing completely broke down. The folks who have tossed together cycling events (not the big fundraising kind... just the "bring in enough to pay for the stuff we do" kind) didn't realize that lots of pre-registration was, simply, expected, period, thank you. There were also people who they thought would donate food and stuff who didn't. Now, unfortunately, they're emailing telling us to let it rest and that gosh, *they* knew it might not come off, so *what* is our problem, because it's for a good cause? Thing is, it's been four days since anybody said anything, so far as I know it *was *resting 'til this last little jab. I can't tell if they're annoyed that folks are going to do the ride anyway... if they were *actually* concerned with the cause in question, then you'd think an independent fundraiser for htem would be appreciated and they'd be glad we were expressing our frustrations in a positive way instead of talking about them at all. Now things are stirred up again...

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    I almost always do advance registration now. I've had events close on me and that's a bummer.

    Often times my husband and I are both doing the ride and it's definitely worth it to get the advance discount.

    I registered us for 4 events at one time this spring. Got our spring and early summer taken care of and the events are blocked out on our calendars.

    That's too bad it was cancelled like this.

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    I think I'm glad I'm not there It's probably going to happen in one form or another...

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    Quote Originally Posted by indysteel View Post
    What she said. Generally, I will pregister only if have to and/or there's a decent discount for registering early.

    As far as charity events, I'd add that it usually takes more than one year to break even or make a substantial money. It's too bad the Lion's Club threw in the towel without at least giving it a couple of years.
    Naw, the Lions Club has been doing a ride for years and doesn't even *try* to have advanced registration - they just do day of.
    There weren't pledges... I suspect there were other politics (like, maybe other people who thought they should have done the pledge thing, and almost certainly expectations that more corporate sponsors would donate stuff).

    From what I'm hearing, well, maybe people will show up for the "gonna do it anyway" thing and maybe not... just wish I could!

 

 

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