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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl View Post
    I have about 17 or so of them (bought for 99 cents each, a few at a time as I needed more).
    Where do you get them for 99c? Every time I see them for sale, they're $7 or $8
    By charity, goodness, restraint, and self-control men and woman alike can store up a well-hidden treasure -- a treasure which cannot be given to others and which robbers cannot steal. A wise person should do good. That is the treasure that cannot be lost.
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    I have heaps, but sadly as I get my groceries delivered( no car, and no panniers big enough on bike) I keep getting more of those recyclable but annoying starch plastic bags. GRRR.
    I found that the recycle bags tend to break when you fill them with more than 30 apples ( I live on apples!)
    When I buy veggies and stuff, I only use them for loose beans etc also, I mean their dirty to begin with, more dirt isnt going to hurt. I just pile them on the belt.
    I never worry about what check out people think - Ive been one of them , They are usually thinking,please get me out of here , my arms and feet are KILLING me.
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    I do not own a car and thus, usually make many trips to the co-op per week on my bike and then use my panniers

    I do have many grocery bags to use for garbage bags and paper recycling. I use them when I catch a ride to the store with someone or go to the store when my parents are in town
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    I think it's silly to buy bags that are made in and shipped from China and call it "green." That's like buying a brand new hybrid car with a battery with a finite lifecycle and no recycleability, when you have a perfectly functonal car in the driveway, and calling that "green." The only "green" is the money given to retailers.
    However, I do have a stash of bags that I have been given at various events and seminars that I will re-use for shopping. I also have a large stash of plastic grocery bags (my DH is horrible about bringing them to the store whenever he goes) in the broom closet. Those also get used and re-used.

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    Yeah I suppose I could make or get some reusable cloth produce bags from natural fibers. But it's not just that beans and grains and nuts and cereal need to be contained. Greens and herbs would get completely torn up, never mind getting all my other purchases (and the bags themselves) soaking wet. Small soft fruits like tomatoes, pears, or plums would migrate to the nooks and crannies and get completely crushed between heavier items. And if I have multiple of the same item (four small zucchini, let's say), then putting them in a bag for weighing means I don't have to fish them individually out of the bottom of my cart somewhere, which takes a whole lot more time in line than saying good morning to the cashier.

    As far as the self-checkout, of the four grocery stores I use, only one has self-checkout, and sure I do prefer it, but so does everyone else, so the lines are really long. Two of the stores are small and locally owned (and there's rarely any line for me to hold up), so it's a simple matter of courtesy and human interaction to chat with the owners and employees while they're ringing me out.

    Y'know, as far as the overall environmental choices, obviously we shouldn't be shopping in grocery stores at all. This is more like the kind of thing that everyone was coming down on IvonaDestroi so hard about. We all have to make the choices we're able to make, and ignore the rest for our mental survival. Shopping in grocery stores before the farmer's market season begins and, when it's fourteen hilly miles, driving there in my hybrid car, are two of my choices. Owning a carbon fiber road bike made in Asia is another one of them. And if I buy yet another bike that's capable of carrying more groceries rather than an expensive and jerry-rigged conversion of my race bike into a commuter, well, that's another less than ideal choice. So sue me.
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    I started keeping mine in my car, too. I have 5, that cost .99, too. Bought them at the local natural foods store. My DH keeps 4-5 in his car, too, because we never know who/when, etc. will be shopping. He got his at K Mart and they cost 1.00.
    Usually I go to Trader Joe's once a week to buy a few things I can't get elsewhere. I get one paper bag, which I use for my newspaper recycling.
    I still use the plastic vegetable bags, though. Maybe I'll stop.

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    I alternate between plastic and reusable bags. I use totes from various conferences as shopping bags most of the time, but I will ask for plastic when our stash of kitty litter bags is running low. It seems silly to me to buy bags to scoop the cat boxes when I can reuse something that the grocery store will give me for free.

  8. #8
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    I have various canvas bags I've acquired over the years that I use for groceries - including 10 yr old Safeway bags. But the bag I use the most is a little bag, "lunch" sized, that I got at a quilt seminar - not made in a Chinese sweatshop, but a quilt guild "sweat shop" in preparation for the seminar. The ladies made about 150 of the completely lined little bags to hold our Welcome goodies. I use it to bring my lunch to work, mail, and all those odd small bits that don't fit in my purse that I only need to take somewhere occasionally.

    As for plastic store bags - I do still use them - for used kitty litter. Maybe if I had a larger yard, and could build a bigger compost pile, AND get the kitties used to a compostable variety of kitty litter, we could eliminate the need to dispose of their waste. But there you have it, I admit I send poo to the dump on a regular basis. But my weekly garbage pile is still much smaller than my neighbors.

    On a side note - while I was choosing something in WF, and commenting that the variety I used to buy was no longer available to an empolyeee nearby - he said that they had similar sauce available, right here in a glass jar. Told him, maybe so, but I can't recycle the glass jar, and I can recycle cans. Glass recycling isn't available in my area. If the sauces taste about the same, then I'll choose once that comes in a container that I can recycle.
    I don't know if my comment made a difference, but canned variety is back on the shelves.
    Beth

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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    As far as the self-checkout, of the four grocery stores I use, only one has self-checkout, and sure I do prefer it, but so does everyone else, so the lines are really long. Two of the stores are small and locally owned (and there's rarely any line for me to hold up), so it's a simple matter of courtesy and human interaction to chat with the owners and employees while they're ringing me out.

    ..................................And if I buy yet another bike that's capable of carrying more groceries rather than an expensive and jerry-rigged conversion of my race bike into a commuter, well, that's another less than ideal choice. So sue me.
    I know it doesn't require super amount of effort to carry cloth bags inside my panniers...but since we don't have a car and never will, and the bike is for going around everywhere, doing everything (well, non-super rainy/snowy weather), then I'm not going to beat myself up for non-environmental infraction.

    There are times the constant opening up of panniers to place more bought items, ritual of parking a bike at every single errand stop several times, in 1 day is a drag...but no more than hunting around for 5-10 min. for a car parking spot.

  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenSojourner View Post
    Where do you get them for 99c? Every time I see them for sale, they're $7 or $8
    At the supermarket- they are "Price Chopper" brand, 99 cents each. They've been selling them for a couple years now.
    I also see them at another supermarket chain, Hannaford's, for 99 cents as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7rider View Post
    I think it's silly to buy bags that are made in and shipped from China and call it "green." That's like buying a brand new hybrid car with a battery with a finite lifecycle and no recycleability, when you have a perfectly functonal car in the driveway, and calling that "green." The only "green" is the money given to retailers.

    I think the key aspect here is that you can use each of these bags hundreds of times. Mine have held up very impressively. If I use 10 bags a week while shopping or hauling stuff, then over each year my 17 or so bags prevent more than 500 plastic bags from being manufactured. For me, that trumps the fact that they are made in China. Unfortunately, the usual plastic supermarket bags don't hold up well after a few uses carrying any significant load.

    You can buy bags that are made in the USA from recycled cotton, etc, but they are just too expensive still...when they first came out, such bags cost like $12 each and seemed more like 'designer' totes, but I do notice the prices on US made re-usable shopping bags are now steadily dropping as the retailers and manufacturers get a bit more 'real' and I am confident that they will eventually be priced reasonably and made here from all recycled stuff. Once they hit somewhere around $5 each I'll be buying those instead.
    Meanwhile, I feel I'm still helping to prevent excessive plastic production. All of mine are two years old so far, have been used probably 100 times each over the past two years, and they are still going strong. Personally, I like that!
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  11. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7rider View Post
    I think it's silly to buy bags that are made in and shipped from China and call it "green." That's like buying a brand new hybrid car with a battery with a finite lifecycle and no recycleability, when you have a perfectly functonal car in the driveway, and calling that "green." The only "green" is the money given to retailers.
    However, I do have a stash of bags that I have been given at various events and seminars that I will re-use for shopping. I also have a large stash of plastic grocery bags (my DH is horrible about bringing them to the store whenever he goes) in the broom closet. Those also get used and re-used.
    So if someone doesn't have a handy stash of sturdy bags for reuse, as you are lucky to have.... I used to reuse paper grocery bags, but they would inevitably wear out. Similar to BleeckerSt_Girl, I've gotten dozens of uses out of each of the grocery totes that I've purchased (2) or been given as a gift (2), which have been invaluable when going to/from stores on the bus, and they also fit nicely in the rear baskets on my bike. Sure, I probably could have taken the effort to shop around and find bags at a thrift store instead, but the ones I bought were $0.99 and purchased when I was already at the store. I'm of the opinion that a small step in the right direction is better than not considering it at all.
    Last edited by badgercat; 04-30-2009 at 06:20 AM.

  12. #12
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    I have 4 cotton canvas bags that I got from the store that I shop at most often. They're nice and big, and two of them are insulated for dairy and frozen stuff. Like OakLeaf, I put them by the door as soon as I unpack them so I remember to take them back out to the car.

    I just got a reusable bag from REI the other day when I used my dividend.

    I also have a Chico bag that I love because it scrunches into a little pouch and fits in your purse, so it's always there if you need it.

    http://www.chicobag.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ny biker View Post
    I also have a Chico bag that I love because it scrunches into a little pouch and fits in your purse, so it's always there if you need it.
    That bag looks great -- exactly what I need.

    Pam

  14. #14
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    Ah, well, no Price Chopper's anywhere near here. I've not seen anything like that in any of the store I do shop at. I'll settle for recycling the plastic bags fore reuse at Aldi's and using them for trash bags.
    By charity, goodness, restraint, and self-control men and woman alike can store up a well-hidden treasure -- a treasure which cannot be given to others and which robbers cannot steal. A wise person should do good. That is the treasure that cannot be lost.
    - Khuddhaka Patha

    The word of God comes down to man as rain to soil, and the result is mud, not clear water
    - The Sufi Junayd



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    Quote Originally Posted by 7rider View Post
    I think it's silly to buy bags that are made in and shipped from China and call it "green." That's like buying a brand new hybrid car with a battery with a finite lifecycle and no recycleability, when you have a perfectly functonal car in the driveway, and calling that "green." The only "green" is the money given to retailers.
    Indeed. It's about as 'green' as buying a brand new bike and saying that you are saving the environement by riding to work every once in awhile. That's not the point.

    Buying cloth bags is always a better choice than using the plastic ones. Honestly, mine have been used literally hundreds of times since I bought them a little over a year ago. They also still look brand new, so I see no reason why they won't get to thousands of uses. Are they made in China? Yes. Are they made by a company that follows fair trade practices? Yes. Did I reasearch all this prior to buying them? No, I didn't and perhaps I should have. I picked these bags specifically because of the size. Could I carry a big honkin' purse to allow me to put huge tote bags in it so that I was never without a bag? Well sure, but that seems stupid to me, too. And honestly, it's great that you are reusing free totes from conferences and stuff...but where do you think those were made? USA? Not likely.

    My point is that every effort we make is worthwhile. Are we perfect? No. Are we improving, yes...and that's the point. There is no reason to get sactimonious about where reusable shopping bags are coming from when most of us live in a homes powered by grid electricity, use public sewer systems, eat food that wasn't grown in our own backyard by sustainable methods and drive cars powered by foriegn oil. We can't change the world in a day, but we can make better choices about how we live our lives. Preaching to others who are at least making the effort is not helping anyone.
    Last edited by GLC1968; 04-30-2009 at 08:27 AM.
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