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  1. #1
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    Keep in mind that to a surgeon, every problem has a surgical solution.

    I'd do a lot of research online before the consultation and ask a lot of questions before I consented to any surgery. If the Dr. is uncomfortable with the questions, look for another one.

    I'd want to know how common this condition is, and what the success rates are after surgery. What happens to young children after this kind of surgery? Does it make them more prone for other conditions down the road? What are the suggested treatments if you don't have surgery? Will she still have to have a restricted diet or take medications afterward? For how long? What are the side effects from the medications? Might this be cured with dietary changes alone? If she has some improvement with a low or zero fat diet how much fat would you estimate she had been consuming before the change. Could there be particular trigger factors that exercabate the condition. Have you kept a food diary to see any patterns? Could you?

    I could probably think up a lot more questions but I think you get my drift.

    Of course you want to have your daughter treated quickly and efficiently, and most of all, safely. But surgery is still considered by many to be a pretty drastic measure. Yes, it has it's place, but you really want to consider all the aspects of such a step. (My father was a surgeon, and he always advised us never to have surgery unless it was absolutely necessary and that we fully understood what would be done, why, and really understood what the limitations or other effects afterward might be).

    Keep in mind that a doctor is a businessman/woman just like any other and he wants your business. We'd all love to believe our doctors are just like Marcus Welby and that they really care about us, and some of them do, but I think in many cases they are just too hamstrung by insurance companies requirements and have to see more and more patients each day just to break even (there's that business problem again) thus we just don't get the care and attention that we should any more.

    Good luck. This is a decision that no parent should ever have to make. Let us know how it turns out.

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    I don't have any advice but my Dad and college roomate had their gallbladders removed. Both laprascopically and were out of the hospital same day or next day. My college roomie had to stay overnight because she had a baby by c-section a month before the docs just wanted to be careful with her. Anyway, I hope there is another remedy but if not the surgery is relatively routine (but scary as any surgery is) and the scar for most people is small. Oh and both of those two feel tons better after electing to have the surgery after several years I do not know that either has issues because of not having a gallbladder. ((HUGS))
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    Quote Originally Posted by withm View Post
    Keep in mind that to a surgeon, every problem has a surgical solution.
    +1 to this, and I was REALLY glad to hear the same thing from my psychiatrist. It's not just my anti-doctor "bias" if you want to call it that, it's a way that surgeons think that even other doctors recognize.

    Other than that, I don't have anything to offer. I know my sister had good luck with a GB cleanse last year, but she's an adult, and I don't know how bad hers was before the cleanse. When I had GB problems it was all diet and stress - once I cleaned that up, I haven't had another attack in almost 30 years.

    Sending healing vibes to your daughter and serene ones to you.
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    Keeping you and your daughter in my thoughts and prayers.

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    Are there any homeopathic doctors you can go to for a second opinion? I think I'd try that first if it's an option. Regardless, best of luck and I hope she's painfree soon.
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    No suggestions, but I am sorry you guys are going through this.
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    Fybye - you live in a pretty small town in Idaho don't you? ( I went to nursing school at ISU) Has your daughter seen a pediatric gastroenterologist? I would recommend a consultation/second opinion with one. And hopefully someone can guide you to a surgeon who is very competent in laparoscopic gall bladder surgery, if it comes to that. Good luck! Tokie By the way - one of our nurses and one of our scrub techs (both) went through exhaustive diagnostic testing for suspected gallstones. They had horrible episodes of colic and both lost lots of weight because eating so frequently caused pain (and they had to eat such a low fat diet to avoid pain). Their diagnostic tests never showed definitive gall stones, but they are both very pleased to have had their laparoscopic gall bladder surgeries. Sometimes the gallstones are tiny, more like sand than stones, and cause the same type of problems as large and obvious gallstones, without showing up on even the most high tech nuclear medicine scans.
    Last edited by Tokie; 04-27-2009 at 09:10 PM. Reason: thought of something else

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    +1 to Tokie's advice. One of my kids had gastro issues at birth and we went directly to a pediatric gastroenterologist.
    No offense to anyone, but "cleanses" haven't exactly been found to cure gall bladder disease. The dietary things do work, but i can't imagine it's good for a child to have a no-fat diet. I am not surgery happy, but I have known several people who have had the lap. procedure, and they were up and about in just a couple of days. It sure would be awful to be a kid with constant stomach pain and I would think this deserves a permanent solution.

 

 

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