I am such a fan of Terry T-shorts. This year I bought two new ones and the chamois is great. They are not too thick, good for long rides and not too tight in the legs, which always seemed to be a problem with other shorts. I have tried several kinds, REI, Canari, PI, and Blackbottoms. I will always go for the Terry, even though they are expensive. I wait for free shipping, at least!!