"Special Women's Section"

[Crankin]

Maybe I feel like being "provocative" today, but I get the sense that a lot of posters feel you can't be a serious cyclist if you ride a WSD bike. Really?
Let me state that I don't ride a WSD bike. I let myself get talked into buying something else. No one else's fault but my own. I will give the shop owner credit for exchanging the frame of the original bike I bought for an x-small frame in a different model of the same make, 2 years later. I know it involved him realizing that I was going to blab all over town about what cr*ppy service he gave me, after dropping some serious cash for my bike. At the time I made the switch, I had to do all my own research to solve my reach/brake problem. Thanks to everyone at TE, I am now able to ride in the drops (well, other than my own fear going down steep hills!). I went out and bought a new bar at another shop and also had them order me short reach brifters. Why should I have to have done this? If he had shown me a bike that came with some of the things I needed, I would have been better off. But, no, he had to push the Italian frames that he can make a big profit on.
I had 2 WSD bikes before this. Yes, they had 650 wheels, but, I didn't care. I am not a racer, but I am someone whose lifestyle revolves around cycling, and I am serious about it. Serious to have fun, that is. So, when a magazine is showing WSD bikes, I am interested, even though I won't be buying another road bike for a long time.
My mountain bike is not WSD and again, it is too big for me. Not terrible, but definitely could have gone smaller. My around town bike, a Jamis, is the best fitting bike I have. It's a WSD flat bar road bike that is made for a short person! Funny, it is also the cheapest of the 3. Of course, everyone is entitled to his/her opinions, and of course, not all women are built for a WSD bike. But, again, let's not make assumptions about what anyone needs. I just wish I could go into a shop and be listened to. You can bet the LBS owner where I bought my bike listens to me now, but I had to be somewhat threatening to get there!

[Cataboo]

Crankin, I don't think people are saying you can't be a serious cyclist or racer on a WSD bike - I think it's the problem that the top of the line wsd bike by one brand is usually not as nice a bike as the top of the line men's bike. That was one of the comparison's in the special women's section... I think it was the men's trek vs. the women's... they had to swap the wheels and something else on the women's bike to make it comparable....

As for myself - I don't have a wsd and would do very badly on one, because I don't have a wsd body... However, my boyfriend would do great on a wsd, 'cause he's got a wsd body - 33" inseam on a 5'7-5'8 body.

Bike manufacturer's should just offer short vs. long torso versions of their bikes, instead of mens vs women's wsds with pink highlights somehow. Or baby blue.

Short reach brifters & shorter cranks should be standard on smaller frames whether or not they're wsd.... And you wouldn't necessarily have gotten short reach ones with a wsd, because a lot of them really aren't that well thought out (they're not reading team estrogen, apparently).

I usually just buy a bike knowing that I'm going to eventually replace the saddle, cranks, handlebars, etc. - but a lot of people on here would argue that's why you should get a bike fitting by a good bike person when buying your bike at a lbs, so they'll swap all this stuff out and dial it in for you.

[ttaylor508]

I actually think that by the magazine adding a women's section, it is an indication that bike manufacturers are in fact listening and realize that there is a market out there for serious women cyclist. I know some of you don't think you need women specific products, but I am one (maybe the minority) that really likes that ever so slight touch of pink on my all black bike and though I probably could have fit on a men's frame just fine, I liked the women specific design, both the way it looks and feels. My only complaint about the women's section in that magazine is that I wish it would have had more editorial content, but I am still glad they had included it.

[ny biker]

I actually think that by the magazine adding a women's section, it is an indication that bike manufacturers are in fact listening and realize that there is a market out there for serious women cyclist. I know some of you don't think you need women specific products, but I am one (maybe the minority) that really likes that ever so slight touch of pink on my all black bike and though I probably could have fit on a men's frame just fine, I liked the women specific design, both the way it looks and feels. My only complaint about the women's section in that magazine is that I wish it would have had more editorial content, but I am still glad they had included it.

If bike manufacturers - and magazine publishers - are in fact listening and do realize that there is a market for serous women cyclists, there would not be a special women's section once a year. There would be more content in every issue of the magazine that recognizes the fact that many of the cyclists in their audience are women.

[Norse]

Many women's bodies, mine included, do not fit on a WSD bike. So if that's the primary focus of the bike shop or magazine, it doesn't do much for me. Now, clothing, shoes, helmets, sunglasses... that fit women, that's what I would like to see more focus on.

[malkin]

The magazine that shows up most inexplicably here is Family Circle, which is always like that. Of course with the addition of useful advice about what to do when kids get grumpy and refuse to change their socks and stuff like that.

And how to decorate cupcakes.