Williamtash- You stole our rain! It is weird it has not really rained here (Washington) since June 14 or so. It sprinkled lightly, but it is dry. Leg warmers are my best friend for winter riding and running. I love them. The bugaboo is they are not that warm, and you not only get your shorts dirty, but your leg warmers, so you have two things to wash. I will wear tights if it gets really cold, but I have yet to find a pair I like enough to spend lots of money on. On top I love the wool jerseys also, but need a good jacket to shed the muck. Those Rivendale ones look nice!