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  1. #1
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    I pay more attention to everything. Is it because I cycle or moved to a more urban area? Not sure. I do notice more cyclists and pedistrians.
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    Definitely. I'm a lot more aware and understanding of cyclists needs.

    But for me it's more the opposite. I rode a bike for many years as an adult before I got my drivers licence, and I'm a better bike rider now that I'm a driver too.
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  3. #3
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    No, I don't think so.

    I'm a better driver AND a better bicyclist because I ride a motorcycle.

    I'll grant that maybe, with me, it's because I never had a break after childhood riding. I transitioned seamlessly from tooling around the neighborhood and to school the way kids do, to commuting to work on my bici in heavy traffic at 16, to riding hundreds of miles a week both recreationally and commuting at 23, to racing at 27. So I never "learned" to ride a bike with new eyes. At 31 I burned out, mothballed the bici and learned to ride a moto.

    Riding a motorcycle taught me a lot of the things others have mentioned - lane positioning, seeing with my whole eyes, avoiding target fixation, body steering (ok not relevant to cars ), eschewing distractions. When I came back to bicycling, I brought those skills back with me. I'm not sure I ever would've learned how to see at 70 mph by riding a bicycle at 20. I guess that's where MTBing might help (obstacles being closer means they appear to be coming at you that much quicker), but I never did much of that.
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    absolutely yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    . . . body steering (ok not relevant to cars )
    Yeah, body english doesn't work in SUVs sliding across the ice. Ask me how I know . . . .

    The skid class instructor was most impressed with my attempts though!
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  6. #6
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    I definitely drive better since I ride. I have been really riding for 4 years now, so I have seen the different perspectives. I'm a lot more careful, like at stoplights where there are notoriously red-light runners, I just wait 1 car...2 car...anyone else? Ok go. I wouldn't necessarily notice that as much in a car since I'm padded by four walls. And I definitely notice other bikes on the road.

  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    No, I don't think so.

    I'm a better driver AND a better bicyclist because I ride a motorcycle.

    Riding a motorcycle taught me a lot of the things others have mentioned - lane positioning, seeing with my whole eyes, avoiding target fixation, body steering (ok not relevant to cars ), eschewing distractions. When I came back to bicycling, I brought those skills back with me. I'm not sure I ever would've learned how to see at 70 mph by riding a bicycle at 20. I guess that's where MTBing might help (obstacles being closer means they appear to be coming at you that much quicker), but I never did much of that.
    I completely agree with OakLeaf.

    I've ridden bicycles as a kid and young adult. Did not help my driving a bit (however, I was never a bad, timid, nor dangerous driver, I like to think). At 33, I started to ride motorcycles, but it was not till I started to ride at racetracks when my driving extremely improved. I position myself in lane properly, never run wide, make sure that I am turning where I suppose to (entry of the turn, apex, accelerate properly and safely on exit), being able to have 'wide' vision in high speeds and avoid target fixation. The best, I learned to predict what other drivers will do: "Ride as everyone other is out there to get you".

    All of these skills made much better cyclist when 1.5 years ago I started cycling again. I am not invincible but I am better driver and bicycle rider because of my motorcycle riding training.

    But then, 95% of drivers feel that they are better than average (median). Go figure.

    Btw, Oakleaf, did you ever try to hang off a bicycle. I think I have finally mastered it (granted only in one sweeper turn) but definitely cannot drag my knees
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    Quote Originally Posted by martinkap View Post
    Btw, Oakleaf, did you ever try to hang off a bicycle. I think I have finally mastered it (granted only in one sweeper turn) but definitely cannot drag my knees
    LOL, I can't even get my knee down on a MC. (Not that I've ever tried, since I'm strictly a street rider.)
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    Absolutely. I think I'm a better driver particularly because I spent years commuting by bicycle in and around Washington, DC. Commuting by bike really makes you aware of rush hour traffic. My riding now is mostly on country roads at non-rush hours, and I don't think that would have the same effect on my driving as commuting by bike does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biciclista View Post
    Ha, bicycling has made me a more timid and frustrated driver. I think I am on a bike sometimes while i'm driving, and I watch intersections and cars like they are going to kill me! while I drive my car. And in stop and go traffic, I sit and stew because i know if i was on my bike I'd be far far down the road.
    +1

    I was a bit of a nervous driver to begin with, and the less I drive, I find the more my anxiety goes up when I do drive. I do think cycling has made me more aware of my surroundings, though, and made me slow down a bit too.
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    I know for certain it has slowed me down in the car. I used to get a speeding ticket a year. Knock wood, haven't had one since I started riding regularly.
    I think it also helps me see peripherally.

    I still can't gage properly the distance between the right side of my pickup and, say, a fencepost, while going through a tight driveway entrance on a curve... though. D'Oh!
    I can do five more miles.

 

 

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