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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Troutdale, OR
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    2,600
    I watched:

    1. redondo beach police issue tickets to four guys who ran a stop sign.
    2. Palos Verdes Police issue tickets to two guys who ran a stop sign.
    3. Palos Verdes Police warning a guy for running a stop sign.
    4. Torrance Police lay in wait for cylists to run a stop sign.


    Here in California, it goes on your drivers license and I think the fine is around $180.00 I've got better things to spend my money.

    I've also been thanked by police for coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. That 2 seconds I "waste" by stopping at a stop sign is far better than becoming a bug splat on the road.

    Is it really worth taking a risk to save 2 seconds??

    I have yet to ride with a squad who abide by the law.

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    to Aint Doody,

    You were in the lead and called out "stopping". Your friend following is totally in the wrong by calling out "going" ("rolling"). It doesn't matter if there was a stop sign or not. If a lead calls out "stopping", there probably is a very good reason for stopping.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Pacific Northwest
    Posts
    3,436
    The safest possible thing an excellent cyclist can do is to be predictable to everyone else on the road. That means: stop at the stop signs.
    "My predominant feeling is one of gratitude. I have loved and been loved;I have been given much and I have given something in return...Above all, I have been a sentient being, a thinking animal, on this beautiful planet, and that in itself has been an enormous privilege and an adventure." O. Sacks

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    108
    I recognise this from my group rides. We have a guy in our group who just will not be considerate or responsible. Every time we get to a junction or a roundabout most of us will wait if there are cars having the right of way, and then the peloton stops. However, he will then overtake us all, barge right into the roundabout or the junction, so that all the cars stop - mostly when we're riding as a team, the cars will be very cautious. I used to think this was because they want to be considerate, but having seen this guy I'm beginning to think that it's more due to their having seen this type of erratic behaviour... And the result of course is that as all the cars stop, we all feel that we should appreciate their stopping, but you all know how much time it takes to start a peloton, when all have to get back in balance, sort out pedals and so on...
    Think orange. Earn success.

 

 

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