Quote Originally Posted by ilima View Post
To get 105 components and carbon seat stays on a Trek or Specialized you'd have to spend $1500-1600. Jamis, which is known for being priced well, has the Ventura Race with carbon seat stays and 105 components retailing for $1350.
Another choice: Fuji Finest RC 2009, which even has the Ultegra read derailleur. I'm riding this one. So far so good. I even don't have problem with its saddle.