Mtn Shoes?

[tzvia]

Have you tried any Sidis? They tend to run about quite small, so if you take a 38 Shimano, you might need a 39 Sidi.... (I take a 37 Sidi - yes it sucks that they don't make the high end shoes in the smallest sizes)

Yep, I have bullet2's , in 38.5. After a short while, my soles would ache- (I have foot issues including the flattest flat feet you could ever imagine.) This would only happen in flexy shoes. I suspected it, but did not know for sure till a photo was taken of me cycling. It showed that as my foot pulled up, the sole actually bent down at the ball of my foot- very obviously. Oh- and the shoes I mentioned above, are WM80s, not WM60s. They are wonderful. So far, no aches- and they feel great. I just wish they were not white. I mean, come on- they are supposed to be for dirt riding!

[Zen]

I wear some kind of old Shimanos because I got them for $20 used

[Aggie_Ama]

Yep, I have bullet2's , in 38.5. After a short while, my soles would ache- (I have foot issues including the flattest flat feet you could ever imagine.) This would only happen in flexy shoes. I suspected it, but did not know for sure till a photo was taken of me cycling. It showed that as my foot pulled up, the sole actually bent down at the ball of my foot- very obviously. Oh- and the shoes I mentioned above, are WM80s, not WM60s. They are wonderful. So far, no aches- and they feel great. I just wish they were not white. I mean, come on- they are supposed to be for dirt riding!

Slight threadjack- have you looked into orthos? I wear Aline insoles in my road shoes for the opposite issue- very high arches and it made a world of difference. Sidi insoles are AWFUL. Specialized are the best out of the box and Shimano are somewhere in the middle but orthos like Aline or Superfeet really customize and help. You sound like you have it figured out but still orthos really upped my comfort on the road, I don't mountain enough yet to notice.