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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilima View Post
    There is a misconception that tag fees are funneled directly back to roads. They're not. Money for roads and bike lanes comes from general funds and often from the federal government.
    This is going to vary state by state I am sure.

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    I paid 170.00 to reg my car! california better not hear about this or I will go broke with all the bike we have!
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    Yeah, because ODOT needs more things to do?! Seriously - they'd be up to their ears in transferring licences every time a bike was sold! My husband alone would keep them hopping with the rate at which he buys and sells bikes!

    And how would they 1)enforce this? and 2) determine what qualifies as a bike? I mean, we've got enough extra parts in our garage to form a couple of whole road-worthy bikes....but they are just parts now. Would they require us to register frames? Or only whole bikes?

    The bill is stupid, but seeing as how there is such a push to tax the number of miles people drive (instead of the gas they use), I wouldn't be surprised if we see this type of proposal come up again and again as a way to make money for the state.
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    Would I have to send photos of a bike frame up on blocks in my front yard? Perhaps surround it with beer cans?
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  5. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by SadieKate View Post
    Would I have to send photos of a bike frame up on blocks in my front yard? Perhaps surround it with beer cans?

    lmao!!

    Seriously, we have a hardtail that DH won't sell because one day we might make it race worthy again. It won't shift but it does have wheels. Then I have two bikes and he has three others rideable. And according to him we "need" more bikes. Don't let our Texas lawmakers get wind of this, they aren't friendly to cyclists and I am sure would love to charge us somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggie_Ama View Post
    Then I have two bikes and he has three others rideable.
    Wuss. You aren't even trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SadieKate View Post
    Wuss. You aren't even trying.
    I am completely open to expanding the fleet. My checkbook laughs at my imagination.
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  8. #23
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    Press Release
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Primary Contact:
    Karl Rohde
    Government Relations and Public Affairs Director
    (503) 226-0676 x12
    (503) 866-8222
    karl@bta4bikes.org

    BTA OPPOSES PROPOSED BICYCLE REGISTRATION BILL

    March 9, 2009 - The Bicycle Transportation Alliance opposes bicycle registration and other
    annual fees on bicycle ownership because:
    • The net revenue realized would not contribute significantly to the construction and
    maintenance of roads and the ancillary facilities necessary for complete streets,
    • The cost of registration would discourage bicycling – a clean, healthy and sustainable
    transportation alternative, and
    • Bicyclists already pay more than their share of road costs through other taxes.
    Past efforts to require bicycle registration and the experience of other communities have
    demonstrated that the net proceeds, after deducting the administrative costs, of bicycle
    registration programs are minimal. Discussions of these proposals during prior legislative
    sessions have demonstrated that bicycle registration is not a viable method for funding
    transportation facilities. Most other states and communities with registration programs have
    discontinued them for this reason.
    Bicycling provides a clean, healthy and sustainable alternative mode of transportation. The costs
    of providing facilities to accommodate and encourage bicycling are minimal in comparison to
    the value derived by reducing the impacts of our present reliance on motor vehicles for
    transportation. Rather than discouraging bicycling by requiring cyclists to pay even more of the
    costs imposed by motor vehicle operation, policy makers should be exploring ways to make
    bicycling safer, more convenient, and accessible for all citizens.
    Many proponents of bicycle registration hold the erroneous perception that motor vehicle
    operators pay the costs of their use of the transportation system through gas taxes and that
    bicyclists do not pay their fair share of road construction and maintenance costs. In fact, the gas
    taxes paid by motorists are not sufficient to pay these costs. Property taxes and a variety of other
    fees that are levied without respect to the mode of transportation used by the taxpayer provide
    the balance of the road construction and maintenance funds. Bicyclists actually contribute more
    through these fees than the costs attributable to their use of the transportation system.
    The Bicycle Transportation Alliance is a statewide non-profit organization that works to open
    minds and roads to bicycling. We represent bicyclists and the bicycle industry with over 5000
    members in Oregon and SW Washington, and have seventeen years of experience in bicycle
    engineering, planning, education and advocacy.
    - END -
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  9. #24
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    What a crazy idea! The manpower to process/upkeep all that paperwork alone would cost the state ten times more than the money they would make in fees. Seriously, that's a ridiculous notion. It would discourage a lot of people from riding, I think, causing more cars on the road (why bike when a car tag costs the same?). Hmmmm...

    Our car tags are usually in the $300 range new, and it goes down every year by a little. I'm still paying $80/yr for my 8 year old car. I would die if I had to pay $50 per bike every year. It would make me cranky (or crankier).
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    That press release answered my question. Thank you!

    I wanted to say that in Arkansas, the vehicle registration is $25, but we pay annual personal property taxes separately, based on the value of the vehicle, as well. It's just lumped in with other property, so it doesn't feel like a fee on the vehicle. We also pay personal property taxes on the furniture in our house, too.

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    Susan, thanks for posting the press release. As I said, I've emailed those sponsoring the bill as well as my local state rep. I don't think it'll go anywhere, but we still have to be vigilant as was stated in another post.

    People in our bike club want them to add skateboards, wheelchairs, shoes with the little wheels, and just plain old shoes! I think that just points up the absurdity of the whole idea.
    Tis better to wear out than to rust out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aint Doody View Post
    People in our bike club want them to add skateboards, wheelchairs, shoes with the little wheels, and just plain old shoes! I think that just points up the absurdity of the whole idea.
    Don't forget baby strollers and those jogger things!
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    SHARE THE ROAD - SHARE THE LOAD. IT'S THAT SIMPLE
    I keep hearing and reading this from motorists who don’t like bicyclists and see them as “freeloaders”, and I am really getting tired of it. Who died and made you guys the tax police for crying out loud? Please explain to me just exactly what you mean by 'it's that simple'. And now we have these four legislators in Oregon who want everyone to be forced to register their bikes at a cost of $54 every two years or face a $90 fine. There would be a $25 fine for failing to notify the State when ownership changes hands, too.

    I read this “cyclists are freeloaders” garbage in the blogs. I read it in the editorial pages and I read it in the “sound-off” forums. I hear it from motorists who yell at me and tell me to get off the road that was built for them. Well excuse me, ladies and gentlemen, but you are totally missing the point. Let me pose a question to you. The sidewalks in front of your house are paid for with highway and property taxes. I'd like to know just exactly when you plan to register your Nikes, because I PAID FOR THOSE SIDEWALKS with my gas taxes, auto registration, drivers license and other highway user fees, as well as the property tax I paid on the home I own. Where do you get off sharing my road without paying your fair share of taxes when you go out for an evening walk around the block?

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  14. #29
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    Oooh, Mimi. I like what he has to say. I'm going to forward that link to some people I know.
    Tis better to wear out than to rust out....

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    I know the guy that writes that blog. What a wacky old curmudgeon
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