We are speaking of the same forum. We both know about this builder. After one of my posts earning a virtual pile on from the boys in that club, I got lots of "off list" emails from women (and some men) giving me support. And african american readers, too. All off list. I tried speaking up for myself, as a woman, there. Not a good idea unless you want to feel very, very isolated. I am isolated enough with the career I chose!There is a VERY popular frame builder posting to another forum in which I participate. He is has toned it down some, but he used to regularly post soft porn pics of women and makes all kinds of sexist comments. He may give kudos to a woman racer for her results but in the same breath will comment about her physical beauty or lack thereof.
I wouldn't ever want one of his bikes though he's one of the most "respected" builders out there and his frames are in such high demand that he's closed his order list.
But one woman wrote me something that helped me understand and walk away less angry: "they don't even know what they don't know." That, I am afraid, sums it up for me.
I think issues like sexism and the fact of people dying out there in the world--especially those dying due to violence, greed and starvation--are quite connected.86 posts and one member leaving over what made me grin... and click away... have you nothing better to do than get offended at something like this. People are dying out there in the world. For Goodness sake.
Zen, I know that story. The funny thing is, that story is about the danger of holding onto views that keep us separated, that disallow compassionate action. Do you really think that applies here?Two monks were once traveling together down a muddy road.



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