Intersection navigation questions
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I ride with a few friends, and we are having a difference of opinion about how to go through an intersection that is on one of our rides.
The intersection has one lane going straight through in each direction plus a turn lane on each side of the lane. It is on a hill, and there are often several cars waiting for the light to turn. My friends do not like stopping on the hill, so they go inbetween the cars in the lane going straight and the right turn lane, so they are sometimes fitting themselves inbetween two lanes of cars until they get to the front where there is space for them. I just can't bring myself to do that and get in line behind the cars. Of course, then I am slow getting started on the hill, but I stay to the right side of the lane and cars can get around me pretty well - or not, but I still don't see that there is any other way to do it.
I have always said that we are supposed to behave like a car and follow the same rules the cars do, and they agree, but then do the same thing next time. Input please. There is no way to avoid this intersection on this ride.
And, while I am at it.... How about a large, very busy highway with a grassy median between 2 lanes on each side. At the place where we cross, there is an unmarked paved turning area between the lanes for u-turns and turns onto access roads on each side of the highway. We usually have to go halfway across the highway and wait in the unmarked paved turning area until traffic allows us to cross the rest of the way. Where should we wait in that halfway area? I would rather wait all the way to the far right so that cars have plenty of room to turn in the rest of the area.
Most of our ride is low traffic, but these two places can be tricky.
Grits
2010 Trek 5.2 Madone WSD, SI Diva Gel Flow
2002 Terry Classic, Terry Liberator