Finally got out to ride a bit between the raindrops yesterday. Not a very long ride- with the rain threatening the whole time, and having to walk through some muddy areas with lots of tree branches. The saddle was a lot like it was on the trainer. At first I thought "oh gosh, this was a mistake..." and a few minutes later it was fine. After a few more minutes I stopped thinking about it and just rode the bike and enjoyed the rain-cleaned air. It is definitely stiffer than the Aspide, and really supports me well but does not create any pressure anywhere even without a center hole or channel. It's still to early to tell, with just one ride outside and not a very long one, but it looks promising. If you are looking for the living room couch, it's not for you, but if you want a lightweight performance saddle for wide sitbones it is worth a try and besides, it has that 90 day return...