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  1. #1
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    This is what we call Darwinism. I'm sorry, but if you ride around gates and stopped trains I find it hard to feel bad for you if you get creamed by a train. Pedestrians do this too and end up getting killed. I know that metra line well, used to commute to school on it in college. Those express trains FLY. And while yes they normally operate on the center tracks, you have to be pretty careless to assume a train isn't coming by on the outside track.
    "Only the meek get pinched, the bold survive"

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    Quote Originally Posted by betagirl
    This is what we call Darwinism. I'm sorry, but if you ride around gates and stopped trains I find it hard to feel bad for you if you get creamed by a train.
    My thoughts exactly - I'm so glad that you found the words to say this nicely. The person I really feel for is the engineer of the train.

    Something similar happened in the Boston area in the not-to-distant past, and the paper published an interview with the engineer. Even if they wanted to stop, it takes quite a distance to bring a train to a halt - as in there is not a chance that the driver of the train can stop in time to not hit the person who jumped out in front of it.

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    My thoughts exactly Denise and Betagirl. Years ago when my children were young we took the Amtrak to Florida. We were held in Washington DC for 5 hours because we hit someone on the track that was picking up cans. I am sorry to say I did not feel bad for this person. That must sound horrible but he did not belong there, he broke all the rules and made for our 22-24 hour trip end up a 30 hour trip. I just don't understand people like this.

    Here on Long Island most train tracks are now built up from the ground. There are still some on the ground on the north shore but by me they are all raised. This would be the Long Island Rail Road. At least they made one smart move in all there years of existance.

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    YIKES! Never thought I'd hear such cynicism here.

    People make mistakes everyday, we forget to turn off the coffee maker so our house catches fire...well we shouldn't have left it on in the first place. We think the track is clear, we've had a hellish day /or/ we're running late for work (and might get fired if we're late again) so we look around and make a dash for it...well we broke the rules so no compassion for this lost life.


    Maybe the person collecting cans along the track was living in poverty and was at least trying to make a little money buy picking up gross old cans. Their DEATH delayed your trip 5 hours and you feel no compassion?

    I don't understand people who've lost their compassion.

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    I'm with Queen

    Every human life is precious. It doesn't matter how that life was ended, it is still a person who lived, breathed, and important in some way to this world.

    As a Christian I'm a little appalled at the remarks I see concerning this. We all make stupid mistakes and yes, sometimes fatal mistakes. We should all mourn at least in some way when a tragedy like this occurrs.

    Donna
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    They're cute when they're little. Then they grow up and they're just ug and dumbly. Quote from my daughter

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    What good does your lost job or collected cans do you if you're dead? What if that cyclist caused the engineer to derail the train and commuters were killed in the process? We could get real deep into who should feel bad for whom here with many "what ifs". I guess my opinion just makes me a heartless, noncompassionate, non-christian. That's cool
    "Only the meek get pinched, the bold survive"

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    Interesting turn for a thread that was simply encouraging people to be careful.

    I'm not a christian either and my point about compassion is simply an outgrowth of my own personal requirements for MY life. I strive to live my life with honor and compassion, those are two very fundamental cornerstones of my life. When I feel my compassion slipping (since I work in welfare this happens A LOT), I have to look at the people around me and realize that if I lose my ability to feel compassion then I become someone I don't want to be.

    Yes the person who went around the flashing lights and the person picking up cans were doing something they shouldn't have been doing...this doesn't mean their death was "deserved". Again, feeling compassion doesn't mean excusing behavior.

    Electra Townie 7D

 

 

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