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    Quote Originally Posted by shootingstar View Post
    True that Gourmet place is good place for cheffy stuff and advice. (except the Asian groceries are too expensive)

    I'm hoping for inside knowledge by TE member here...it would be the equivalent of someone asking how to assess/buy quality rice. I most certainly would have an opinion about different types and grades of rice..after eating and buying the stuff for several decades from different stores.
    hmmmm I'm not sure I have much advice about specific brands of balsamic. General advice is to look for brands that are produced in Modena or Reggio Emilia Italy (the only places allowed to produce and call their product true balsamico - very much like wine made everywhere besides Champagne the product has to be called sparkling wine. The names to look for are Aceto Balsamico Tradizionale di Modena or Aceto Balsamico Tradizionale di Reggio Emilia)and the older the vinegar, generally the better the quality... it has to be aged at least 12 years to be true balsamico. Beware - "Balsamic Vinegar of Modena" is not a true balsamic - its a wine vinegar that thickeners and colorings have been added to, so that it is more like a real balsamic.

    but I'd love to hear about buying quality rice..... For caucasians my husband and I consume rather a lot of it (we buy short grain in 50lb bags... and I actually have at least 4 different kinds in the pantry at the moment...jasmine, basmati, calrose and arborio... and I think a few little packets of specialty rice, black, sweet, etc)
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    I've never actually been willing to spring for Tradizionale balsamico. At prices beginning at $1 per milliliter, I can't justify it to myself.

    Since I've never tasted tradizionale, I can't comment on the differences, but I know there are a number of less expensive choices out there that I've enjoyed perfectly well. What I have on my table right now is Fondo Montebello "Old." It depends on what you consider "overly expensive" whether that would fall within your guidelines or not. I've also enjoyed Fattoria Estense Gran Riserva #12. (The numbers each brand uses do not necessarily indicate the aging time, but a higher number is always a higher grade.)

    Tradizionale is not used on salads. A few drops on cheeses, roasted vegetables, soups, risotti and desserts goes a long way. Middle grades are not too thick for salad dressings, and we do use it that way at home (again, just a few drops, NOT pre-mixed), but that's definitely an Americanized use.

    When I'm looking to try a new brand, I do two things: (1) swirl the bottle around and make sure the vinegar coats the sides pretty thickly - that gives you an idea of how syrupy it is; and (2) if it has a US label, which they're all supposed to but not all of them do, check the sugar content per serving - in general you want it to be pretty high. Then at some point I just make the plunge. It's a fairly large commitment since a bottle can last the two of us months or a year, and it's way too expensive to just discard if we don't like a brand. Just like wines, each has a unique flavor.


    I'd love to hear about buying rice, too!
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    I'm with Oakleaf. How much do you want to spend? Find a pretty bottle.
    What you're buying is old vinegar with some sugar added. I've had the cheap and the expensive, and when you toss it into a salad, there's not that much difference. But it's a gift, and it would be tacky to put a bottle of safeway brand in a basket as a gift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biciclista View Post
    I've had the cheap and the expensive, and when you toss it into a salad, there's not that much difference.
    Don't know about salad, but for dipping bread, it makes a BIG difference whether it's quality or not!

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    We have one cheap bottle for salad (maybe 8$ for 500ml), one a little more expensive bottle for "nice" (maybe 20$ for 100ml) and a "reduction" for fancy decorations, but that is sort of cheapo too. It's a convenient squirt bottle and we squirt that over steaks too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biciclista View Post
    I'm with Oakleaf. How much do you want to spend? Find a pretty bottle.
    What you're buying is old vinegar with some sugar added. I've had the cheap and the expensive, and when you toss it into a salad, there's not that much difference. But it's a gift, and it would be tacky to put a bottle of safeway brand in a basket as a gift.
    Eek, that's not what I said! There's an ENORMOUS difference between cheapola (nasty red wine vinegar) and what I'm getting for $40-80 per 250 ml. It's WELL worth the price, and it's NOT for salads.

    I don't know that there ISN'T a difference between what I buy, and the real stuff which costs three times as much, I just don't know what it is. For all I know Tradizionale is worth the price. It's just one of those things I can't justify to myself... for the same reasons I couldn't justify buying a Seven with full DA when I returned to cycling. Not at ALL because it's not worth the price, but because there's just a limit to how much I want to spend for certain things. I think that's what shootingstar was asking too! Maybe the brands I recommended are within her price range, maybe they aren't, but I wouldn't hesitate to buy them again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biciclista View Post
    I'm with Oakleaf. How much do you want to spend? Find a pretty bottle.
    What you're buying is old vinegar with some sugar added. I've had the cheap and the expensive, and when you toss it into a salad, there's not that much difference. But it's a gift, and it would be tacky to put a bottle of safeway brand in a basket as a gift.
    That's just it! A good balsamico vinegar doesn't have caramel or sugar added! But those are really expensive (over 50$ for a 250 ml bottle). A good alternative is Saporoso. http://www.acetaiamalpighi.it/saporoso.htm

 

 

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