Actually Susan's link is to the down sweater vest, which she calls an ultralight down vest, but everyone else calls a down sweater vest.
The one I got is this one, the actual down sweater (again TE calls it the ultralight down jacket but every one else calls it a down sweater):
http://www.teamestrogen.com/prodPA_84681.html
I think Susan did this so people wouldn't confuse them with their heavier down jackets. I tried this item on so many times in a store but couldn't bring myself to spend $200 on it. It is 800 fill down and is amazingly flattering on me (I have a broad back, small waist, and medium hips). It's the best thing I've found to layer over a full zip shak that isn't bulky but really adds warmth. I also think it will be good on a long cold airplane flight when the shak isn't enough. Again, its amazing how compact it is in its stuff sack for travel.
Catriona, yes the pants have those straps to adjust, but maybe I didn't do it right, rather than laying smooth it made it bunch in the areas where you adjust it. It is such a lovely piece though, maybe I should ring them up about an exchange order......... Its the only piece I think that is practical for me. The other pants were nice, but the prana pant was way too long and puffy, and I think I ordered the wrong size (M on the size chart but kind of big) but it just seemed way too heavy, its like a fleece attached to a shell, so something very bulky to pack that could only be used under very cold circumstances. The acrtyrex pant struck me as a very expensive hi-tech sweat pant, just not my style. But, you do have me reconsidering the alpstar...........oh the temptation...... I do really like them, and am pretty sure the 6 would work. Do you actually think I will be cold with woolies under a lined wool dress pant on the bottom and my arctyrex shell and layers on top? If so I could always order a midweight base layer to put under the wool pants.
And don't worry, you didn't lead me astray at all. Your suggestions have been very helpful. I think I am more averse to synthetics than you are. I am not fond of fleece. The shebeest wind pro stuff is different (and also available right here on TE!), very high tech and functional, same with goretex, but otherwise I love my natural fibers, wool, down, etc.



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