Thanks Chick, have a great time. I have a feeling my family commitments are going to make it pretty hard for me to join you, but that's my life and I love them even if they do keep me pretty tied down

have you guys checked out the mid willamette valley bicycle club website? They have routes and cue sheets for rides of different lengths...looks like good info

http://www.peak.org/~mvbc/RouteSheets/index.html