shadon, even advanced folk need rest day rides. Especially advanced folk. So when/where are you riding?

Check out Velo girls "melo velo" ride on Saturdays, easy pace, nice group of gals, La Canada road, can't get better than that. I don't have a free Saturday till 09/09 but maybe see you there then.

Also posted somewhere here is the lunachix training series for BATO and the first few rides are short but have some hills.