i think my brains fell out this morning...i actually spoke (typed ) before i thought...i have a brutal cummute by car in the mornings and it takes a while to relax
not that that is an excuse but i am using it

in fact...my otherhalf and i were just discussing the fact that he has reflectors on his $3000 custom trek (i saw a pic of it somewhere) and in the mtbike community that is a joke if you are a REAL mtber. I (miss optimistic) said "maybe he is keeping those on in order to make an image for the youngsters out there?" while the other half said "it is the law for the lbs to sell the bike with reflectors!"...the conversation went on...the point is that i did not think about it that way....

heck i dont even shave my legs all the time