yeaaa!

[Brandi]

Wait up, Tulip. I'm coming with you

Me too!

[kermit]

I must apologize if I offended anyone. That was not my intent. Differences have arisen in this election that have never been seen or interpreted before. The Bush and Reagan days are over. Hopefully for the best. I also know many peaceful muslim people and I believe that the President is one of them. He brings many firsts to this country, and the traditions (wearing an American flag pin for example) are changing. I come from old school values(my father was straight out of the 40's) and I see good and bad scenarious with everything. I am in a state that sucks, politically (all crooks) and socially. Have a house in Georgia I can't wait to move to. My open mindedness has been jaded by putting bad people in jail for 17 years. All excuses yes, but I meant no offense to my cycling pals. Oh and I ride with an ipod, one ear only.

[SadieKate]

I also know many peaceful muslim people and I believe that the President is one of them. He brings many firsts to this country . . .

Being Muslim is NOT one of them. Please check your facts, especially if you participate in law enforcement.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

snopes.com is a highly respected organization and should be a credible source. If you need more, just try google.

[kermit]

Does it matter?

[SadieKate]

Does it matter?

No, it does not matter to me what Obama's religious beliefs are. What matters is the repetition of falsehoods when there are people who do care.

Is this the same attitude you use in your work?

[kermit]

When a man is born in another country and his upbringing is broadcast with several variations you take everything with a grain of salt. I believe the unbelievable. Lets just see what he does now that he got the job. And as far as my work attitude, I'm the one out protecting you.

[Cataboo]

Is Hawaii another country?

[SadieKate]

When a man is born in another country . . .

Since when is Hawaii another country?

I'll repeat the link and provide another.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

[Aggie_Ama]

Obama was born in Hawaii, I thought it was part of USA? McCain was born in Panama but I am pretty sure if you are born on a US Base you are natural born. I don't know.

My Mammaw was born in Arizona before it was a state, we had a lively discussion about whether she was indeed American. Then my mom remembered her parents were born in Texas in 1896 and 1900, they were citizens of the USA and so was Mammaw by lineage.

ETA-Oh no my mom was wrong, Mammaw was born in January 19, 1918 but Arizona was a state as of February 14, 1912. Whew, she is an American through and through. She can run for president!

[sgtiger]

I'm with those that don't see why we as adults cannot have adult conversions be they potentially divisive (and we have proved that almost anything can be controversial - quick, favorite ice cream flavor: chocolate, vanilla, or other) or not. I think we need to keep in mind that one person's proclamation of her (or his) view is not an attack on another who has an opposing view. They are just very passionate about their views and I, for one, can respect that whether I agree with them or not. I have come to value these open discussions because I have learned a great deal through them. I consider myself a pretty open-minded person who tries to see an issue from many possible angles but my fellow TE'ers have opened my eyes to a few possibilities that I had not even considered. Thank-you. Yes, I've even changed my mine on a couple of things as a result of it. But even if I have kept my original views, I been made more aware and sensitive to the reasoning behind those that oppose mine.

For the citizens of the U.S.A., whether or not you voted for our president elect, let us not forget that our civic duty goes beyond the voting booth. There is more that we can do to be involved in our democratic process, so that everyone's voice can be heard. If you don't like a policy, speak out against it - write your local leaders, become involved in civic groups, start an petition/initiative, run for a political office, etc.

For the community at large, this election and financial crisis has proved that we are truly a global community. We cannot forget that as one person's actions can affect others, one nation's actions can also affect the world at large. Even though not every person on this planet could have voted in this election, it does not mean that your opinions are not valid. I take them into consideration because they serve as a check on how our nation is doing.

Long live TE! You all rock!

Soo Son

[sgtiger]

[QUOTE=Aggie_Ama;377897...I am pretty sure if you are born on a US Base you are natural born. I don't know.
[/QUOTE]

Yes, correct. Also, I do believe one can be a natural born citizen if one is born overseas as long as at least one of the parents is a U.S. citizen. I vaguely remember there having to be paper work filled our for the child within a certain time frame though - age five maybe. It's been a long time since I've studied such matters, so my memory is a bit fuzzy.

sg "not a natural born citizen but proudly naturalized in Nov '95" tiger

[Irulan]

No, it does not matter to me what Obama's religious beliefs are. What matters is the repetition of falsehoods when there are people who do care.

Is this the same attitude you use in your work?

to repeat:
What matters is the repetition of falsehoods

[emily_in_nc]

I'm late to this thread as (I confess) I've been too busy checking news and political sites and watching MSNBC in the past week to even read TE (blasphemy, I know!!!!)

I just wanted to say that I noticed as I watched footage of many celebrations all over the country for Obama that what struck me the most is that there was NO VIOLENCE. People were partying together, laughing, crying, and cheering, and they were UNITED -- people of every color. Call me an idealist, but I found that really, really beautiful. Even though I am white, I felt so happy for African-Americans as I could imagine how sweet this night was for them. If I were elated, how must they feel?

Over the course of this campaign, I have been so incredibly encouraged to see how Obama has motivated and inspired people to volunteer, to vote, to get involved. I personally have never cared more about any election than this one, and when the announced Obama as the President-Elect last night at 11pm EST, I wept. I have more hope for this country than I have ever had, even in this time of economic difficulties.

All that said, I thought that McCain's concession speech was sincere and eloquent, and I appreciate it very much.

Hopefully as a nation those who didn't "win" will heal. I think, ultimately, we all won with this historic choice. Wait and see. YES WE CAN!

-Emily

P.S. Susan, thanks for allowing this thread to continue.

[Biciclista]

I also know many peaceful muslim people and I believe that the President is one of them.

GOOD GRIEF!! OBAMA IS NOT MUSLIM!!