I like my shorts to have a bit of what I call "lock and load" which is typically a function of both high quality material and a snug fit. But by snug, I don't mean revealing or overly tight. If the flesh around the leg gripper is bulging or its cutting into my stomach, they're too tight. On the other hand, if they're too roomy, it's a good bet that the chamois won't stay put. That's just as bad. Some brands/styles just don't work for me b/c one size is too small, the other too big. I just keep trying until I find something just right (which happens to be Sugois).