People who don't like SHORT short sleeves -- look for the Gore Liquid jersey. The sleeves go nearly to your elbows. I wasn't expecting that much from this jersey but the fabric is actually quite nice, as is the fit. And full zip. I have two short sleeve and two sleeveless as I was able to get them for $20 a piece at Terry's 50% off sale last year (50% off sale prices is the best!).

The thing is, somehow I am able to pull armwarmers up underneath my cap sleeves... no strip of skin showing... is that unusual?

You can just call my Olive Oyl ...